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Our Faith is esoteric, meaning batin, meaning there is a hidden meaning to it. Every religious practice, infact, if we think in general terms, then every existence has a spiritual sense to it. But keeping it confined to the understanding of the du'a and in relevance to the first part, it is merely ...

In relation to the topic and kmeherali's explanation, here is SMS's farman :

"What is meant by pure deeds (amal)? And how can they remain pure? To keep amal pure, one should be in remembrance at all times. Keeping this remembrance is very difficult because Satan the devil deceives man all the time ...

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Ya Ali Madad Zubair..

I have been following your story through other forums. It is great that you have passion for knowing our Faith.

Our Faith is batini faith. Have faith in Mawla that He knows your intentions. Regardless of whatever religion you practice, the basic notion of forgiveness ...

Ya Ali Madad Zubair..

I have been following your story through other forums. It is great that you have passion for knowing our Faith.

Our Faith is batini faith. Have faith in Mawla that He knows your intentions. Regardless of whatever religion you practice, the basic notion of forgiveness doesnot ...

Ya Ali Zubair..
This may not answer your question but it's an interesting read.

Daily forgiveness

"As long as you don't forgive, who and whatever it is will occupy rent-free space in your mind."

-- Isabelle Holland

We cannot avoid daily resentment and thoughts of guilt. They are a part of ...

Yes, unalhaq.. I would read out the Surah to him. It's nice of Karim to explain his own interpretation of the surah too, 'coz A) that helps me to understand it myself and reflect on it some more and B) Answer some of my son's forthcoming questions from the surah.

Thanks!

Very interesting. Good point.

Great insight on the creation of Adam, Karim. Thanks alot !

Doesn't answer the question though. What was Adam created as ? I believe there is no proof of him being created as a child, but is there any proof of him being created as a grown man ?

My 8 year old son asked a very interesting question while we were discussing Adam. He asked.. Was Adam born as a child or a grown man? Can anyone throw light o­n this matter with supporting evidences from Ginan or farman please? <BR><BR>p.s This question is not about the soul. It's about the first ...

Interesting.

Couldn't it also be in totally esoteric concept? Imam Sultan Muhammed Shah said" Issa Haqiqati hato. teh khuda maan Fana thayo". Keeping this in mind, the soul of Christ became the soul of Ali itself. Since Ali is present at all times, so is the soul of Christ present in Him.

Yal Ali Madad Nizar Bhai,

Thanks for starting this thread so as to allow us to reflect on the esoteric understanding of the concept. I really appreciate Karim's help in making me understand the inferrence you had initially penned down.

Mawla's farman was read in JK today which went something like ...

ok. This actually makes sense. One couldn't have explained it better. Thanks alot!

Interesting. I guess I am trying to look beyond the understanding of the unison of our soul with the Noor.. Also trying to understand how and why is it called the BIRTHING of the Imam. ..

The Noor and its existence in the entire creation , be it still or mobile , is proven to great extent. Our ...

Thanks alot Kmeherali. The ginan proves to be a great analogy and opens ways to understanding yet another material experience and looking at it spiritually. Keep up the good posts!

You have mentioned a few farameen refering to the concept of soul and fana fi allah. But your explanation of the esoteric concept of Hazar Imam's birthday celebration , especially the following lines is not undersatood by me:

which resulted in the birth of a spiritual child.. (Here I skip two ...

Hmm.. interesting explanation. I can understand upto the point of our Deen being esoteric and the only way to the upliftment of our souls as its all in the light of Farameens (Taken from Rohani Roshni mostly). But starting from ...

"he becomes Momin When this happens and Mowla see that his Momin is ...