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It was Imam Hassanali Shah, the 46th Imam who came to India as Imam in 1852(?)
Pardesi,
The correct year was 1842 when Mowlana Hassanali Shah(s.a.) came in Zirak, Sind first now it is in Pakistan but during our 46th Imam arrival it was part of British India.

Thank you "agakhani" for the ...

Perhaps your father meant that the 47th Imam recited Idd Namaz. As far as I understand, our Jamats had been reciting Dua given by Pir Sadardeen until 1954 when our latest Dua was given. We never had a Namaz as a daily ritual.

I just asked him and he said that my grand father told him that when ...

It is hard to trust you Shiraz that you are honest when you say you need help with this "problem" that you have.

Nevertheless, I am pasting a link to an article about Ismaili dua from this very website. Hope this helps.

http://ismaili.net/heritage/node/19202

pardesi

Thanks pardesi uncle for ...

It is hard to trust you Shiraz that you are honest when you say you need help with this "problem" that you have.

Nevertheless, I am pasting a link to an article about Ismaili dua from this very website. Hope this helps.

http://ismaili.net/heritage/node/19202

pardesi

@ Parru

I call my father = father because he deserves that respect.....but when YOU dont have any respect [parru] what kind of respect do you expect from me ??

I never asked nor expect you to respect anyone. Arrogants like you have no respect for others. I asked you what you call your father ...

Oh by the way Shiraz, you missed the maghrib !!

pardesi

Yes and that is your mission - that is to mislead ismailis who come here for knowledge. I only have one handle on this website and that is "pardesi". I am not no "TRET" or "A1337". I don't need to post under several names and Admin will confirm this for you. You are just paranoid, son!

Munna ...

Mislead Ismailis ?? :D :D PARRU aka TRET aka A1337 ;) wake up !!! ....No matter what you think of me its irrelevant to current topic.....and apologise you ?? Why should I ? .....Just because you come with different i.d's doesnt mean that you'll get special treatment.....You stick to your guns and ...

You are just wasting time and splashing water !!!
You are skirmishing with words which are futile....

Oh really I'm wasting your time or its the other way around ?? ....Me, maherali bhai,shamsB bhai, agakhani bhai and to some extent parru were having a logical discussion on this topic

Oh ...

brother parru prasad and zina khan :

What are your views on selling liquor/smoke/drugs/homosexuality/adultery ?

Now once you finish with that I would really appreciate if you could tell me

Is selling alcohol/smokes/lotto/gambling legal in ismailism ???

PS - zina khan aka znanwalla, I would ...

Shiraz is unconvinced in his own faith (isna asherism - as is apparent from his posts) that he is trying to shout it out from the rooftops and prove everyone else wrong.

Yes are right Iam unconvinced with my shia ismaili faith for I dont understand the logic behind some of the things that ...

pardesi said :


He accepts Karim Aga Khan as the 49th lord and living shah/pir and manfestation of Allah's grace and the rope of Allah. And now today he is denying the Imam his right to be all that.


Omg !!!! I cant believe you went to a length of wasting your precious time just looking ...

My faith is that which all 47 imams[as] taught to devout momins.....ie belief in one god :)

We slightly lost our track from 48th imam...who made soooo many changes in our faith....transforming our religion into a business....but now people are getting more and more educated about their faith and ...

I know it depends on your understanding of light, but you're saying don't look physically and I am not. You are treating light as a physical concept. Light is Allah and because the Imam is the manifest light, he is Allah in essence right? Of course we all are, but I am speaking in terms that can ...

I am copy/pasting one of Shiraz Virani's previous posts where he actually accepted Karim Aga Khan as his 49th Imam. Of course it was a lie so he could mislead every one. Scroll down to the bottom.

The Forum is Doctrines and the thread is “Questions about Ismailism from a Sunni”

Posted: 06 Jan 2010 ...

Now if you're talking about circling the kaaba which most of the muslims do which is a part and parcel of hajj which again is one of the pillars of islam.....

Just out of curiosity, we know why muslims circumambulate the Ka’aba during Hajj but Shiraz could you enlighten us as to the significance ...

Your traditions are not of the Prophet ! they are of the medieval past - weak is the chain of those who warrant its truth !... The rites you hold so sacred are but a cheat contrived by your ancestors and Mullahs...they merely lusted after wealth and they gained their lust and they eventually died ...

Brother Aga Khani,

You are absolutely right that no individual has a right to change the original text of ginans. But there is ONE authority that can! Would you agree? You must understand that ginans are not divine, although we sometimes tend to mistake them to be. Ginans can be described, at best ...

I do not think that people who brought out Kalame Imam E Zaman are motivated by their faith, rather they are motivated by greed.

Interesting. it looks like you know a lot about them. Please share with us any info you have about these greedy people. Did you read the book? Did you meet these people ...

I am in no way trying to defend the institutions, nor am I connected with them in any way. I do respect them as they are the connection between most of us and the Imam in religious as well as worldly matters. They are the appointed representatives of the Imam. I am just an ordinary Ismaili like most ...

Regarding the Circulation of Kalame Imam e Zaman

There are individuals who have changed farmans, like the farman of Imam Sultan Muhammad Shah when he refers to Ali Allah. There are individuals who constantly change the Ginans, such as Ashaji where they change “Hari anant” to “Ali anant.” That is a ...

please read :

"People who undertook the work of publishing the book may not have have done it in good faith...."

as

"People who undertook the work of publishing the book may have done it in good faith....."

Nope that is not the clause.

This can not be the article, since the announcement says it is from individual source, they know it is has not pretended being on behalf of any institution. The article quoted is for the purpose to stop people circulating anti ismaili pamphlets etc... unless you ...

Sayyeds trace their lineage from Prophet Mohammad through his daughter Fatima. They are not Ahle Bayt but still considered Noble in status.


Why do you say they are not considered Ahle Bayt? I haven't heard too much about this, if you could elaborate. I believe the context in the Qur'an it ...

So how far apart are these taps and the basin? I thought that muslims are to wash their feet upto their ankles for wadoo purposes. Whats the purpose of washing upto their knees?

muslims do that for a simple fact that its mentioned in quran ! its like saying why salah ? why fast ?

plus they dont ...

well since you showed us a translation of some ahmed saheb i thought you in particular follow ahmed saheb [your ayatullah] or syed saheb who according to you is/was descendant of rasool[saw]

There have been several scholars who have translated Quran according to how they understood arabic. Most ...

I asked a similar question to someone who knew some time back. This is the answer I got.

The appointment and its announcement is only that of Mukhi and Kamadia. The position of Mukhiani and Kamadiani are symbolic and a privilege accorded to the spouses of Mukhi and Kamadia respectively and not ...

Since the creation of man, man has been a victim of blind imitation of silly superstitions, untruths and heresies. ...plus there is abundance of prostitutes all around us who have sold their faith for a pittance and are now happy to serve as "lapdogs"


and i feel completely helpless to this ...

....there are taps located near the ground[knee length] with an underground drainage system, so that a person can wash his legs upto knees ....then you have a basin where you can wash you elbows ,hand etc etc...

So how far apart are these taps and the basin? I thought that muslims are to wash ...

I believe the Prophet, upon whom be peace, was trying to recite the Qur'an fast when it was revealed to him, in order that he can store it into his memory (correct me if I am wrong). Then Allah says not to do that, it is upon Him to collect it and promulgate the Qur'an. The word "Inna," sort of ...