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Correction - I meant esoteric

Samir, we are in total agreement on how the jamat shies away from dealing with difficult issues by hiding behind "exoteric".

star_munir and others - have you seen the following report:

http://www.vancouverite.com/2010/05/14/lawyer-aga-khan-will-prove-he-authorized-copyright-lawsuit/comment-page-1 ...

star_munir, Since you ask I shall respond. Firstly what gives you the impression that I am against publication of Firmans per se? I do not agree with Firmans being published without “authority” of the Imam. Can you please remind us all whether ITREB or any of its fore-runners existed when the guptis ...

A very resounding yes from you as I expected.

Just so that we know where our loyalties lie, I do not believe publishing the Firmans was a good idea - I have intimated the risks so will not expound on those. If you get a chance, read the Firmans Mowla made in Nairobi on 13 December 1973 and Insallah ...

Undoubtedly our tariqa ia an esoteric one but we must not see everything in a baitun light - after all there is duniya as well not just deen. In fact we overuse the concept; quite often instead of responding to critics of our deen in a reasoned way we dismiss them as not capable of understanding ...

Knowledge, your post is very strong advertisement for why Firmans need to be edited; my post only had two sentences and yet you could not understand it (unless you honestly believe I am from another planet and tried to decrypt it using a comic book algoritm!) Can' t imamgine what you would make of a ...

You did not totally delete my post for which I guess I ought to be grateful. You have however edited it which then makes your reference to "through their filter" and "we are all educated" slightly orphaned!

At the end of the day is not this site a platform for propaganda albeit propaganda for the ...

Admin,

You have again deleted a number of posts Let there be fair play otherwise not only will you lose the case, you will also lose "loyalty" to this site

Admin,

You invite us to have a healthy discussion but, as is your prerogative, you delete any posts that offer a contrary view. I had posted a more balanced version of the Law times report as well as a post about how MHI is expected to make firmans globally available if we do not use his appointed ...

Star_Munir, which jurisprudence’s manners and ethics would you like me to learn? Since when have Ismailis been taught to label anyone who does not share your views as ill-mannered and unethical? What does pluralism mean to you? And perhaps you will also enlighten us as to which school of logic ...

Whatever the final outcome, one thing is abundantly clear - a number of the defendents' supporters believe Hazar Imam's leadership to be weak. May I point these same people to the Firmans on Tariqah matters and in particular the Firman in Tanzania in 1988. One wonders how these people can profess to ...

Please read the rest of the sentence:

These cards will be available at the main Paris center "Palace" from Wednesday the 3rd of December for members who have already registered or at the Darbar hall from the 9th of December onwards

You should be able to register and pickup the cards on the day of ...

Kayjay,

Besides tubes, the only other alternative (assuming coaches organised by the jamat are not available to international) is taxi as buses would involve a few changes and take forever! Black cabs are expensive but licensed min-cabs cost around £30 each way from the hotel - some may quote less ...

Teqcherry - padodia khana will be at the Centre as usual.

Kayjay,

Hilton Cromwell Road is only a few minutes from Gloucester Road tube station and Ismaili Centre is one stop from there. If your aunt and cousin can walk it then it is a straight 10-12 walk in a very nice part of London.
See the ...

Rahim,

You will find it on this site itself!

http://ismaili.net/drupal5/node/13095

There is a link to the audio on the top right

Is it just me or do the rest of you also sense a lack of real excitement amongst the UK jamat? Maybe it has something to do with the feeble Intezaari programme that we have initiated. Right from Module 1 , it has been completely non-motivational and should have been ditched in favour of what the ...

Khudawanda tu Sultane karimi
Tu Bismaillahi Rahmano rahimi

Bebaksha bar mane zaaro Muqassir
Ghafora ra hema yarab ba aakhir

Man andar gharqhae bahe guna ham
Tu Daani charae bakhte siya ham

Ba Aho naalao zaario hassrat
Ze ghaflat manda dur az raae dowlat

Kunoon az raae tu man raae digar
Nadaram ...

Char din/char divas is a fairly common metaphor in the subcontinent - it simply signifies the four stages of an average life viz infancy/childhood, adoloscence, adulthood and old age

The Ginan is Moman Chetamni but please do not take it literally - think about taawil, tanzil, tafseer etc and you may be able to understand what Imam Shah was trying to convey.

The physical sword Dhulfikar is currently in Topkapi Museum in Istanbul together with a portion of the origianl door to Kaaba as well as other relics.

There are good quality CDs available of Alwa'ez kamaluddin's waezes. You need to have contacts in Pakistan if you are interested.

Why is it such a big issue? What is there to tell? You have read the reports - they have appeared in a number of newspapers - respected broadsheets not tabloids. So is veracity of these reports pivotal to any particular aspect of your life? 

Naguib is right - it is an extract from a Firman in Tanzania.