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Thank you. What implications do you see this for the soul? Do you believe that the soul can exist in an infinite number of places at one time?

I would be interested to know anyone's view on parallel universes.

I.e what is your understanding of polytheism, idolatry and pantheism

What then, would be an example of shirk?

Not everyone has the capacity to know the Prophet as Allah (as I have alluded before) and hence to the majority, the Prophets usually expressed themselves as fallible human beings as per verse:
"a servant to whom revelation has come" (Sura 41:5)


The prophets all brought the message of tawheed ...

Allah's mercy is always there...

Yes, Allah is Al-Rahman and Al-Raheem, however He is also Shadeedul Iqab (severe in punishment).

The majority may not come with their own interpretation but they trust the interpretation provided by the Pirs.
Would you be able to risk your eternal abode by ...

To refrain from it would be wrong as that would cut them off from the concept.

Would it be as wrong as not receiving the forgiveness of Allah?


There are however various levels of interpreting mazhar. Each person will come to his/her own interpretation.

I think the majority don't come up ...

Thank you kmaherali. I appreciate what you have shared thus far.

I feel this notion of mazhar is rather complicated and hard to understand.

For example you say that the Imam has access to it, however in many ginans the Imam is actually referred to as God Himself. You may say that ginans are ...

The concept of not saying that Jesus is God. The concept of Jesus being God-incarnate would be contradicting this verse.

5:72. They do blaspheme who say: "God is Christ the son Of Mary"...But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! Worship God, my Lord And your Lord." Whoever
Joins other gods with God ...

Thank you.

How can we reconcile these concepts with verses from the Qur'an such as 5:72 or 35:13-14 ?

Does this mean that Christians, who do not believe Jesus to be the literal Son of God are correct in their belief, in the sense of believing Jesus to be God-incarnate, since this is what mazhar (from translations I have seen) means?

Yes and indeed we used to call the names of the Imams before the time of the Prophet in our Old Dua as a recognition of the fact that the Noor has always existed and the Imams have always been present in this world to function as wasila .

Thank you kmaherali. Then what is this shirk the Qur'an ...

Thank you kmaherali.

Then technically, could we not call upon any of the Prophets/Imams before the time of Prophet Muhammad, since technically they also possessed and were bearers of the Noor?

The notion of approaching Allah through the Prophet and the Imams - wasila (intercession), has been discussed in this forum on numerous occasions. Just search for the keyword wasila and you will get all the threads that reference it. Right away I can provide one thread below.

Doctrines --> CAN ...

If someone told me I was committing shirk by calling Ya Ali or Ya Muhammad, or asking them to forgive my sins, how would I respond to these questions?

What constitutes shirk?

You shouldn't narrate reports which you don't fully believe in, in order to justify your belief. Here is the full narration:

Both of you can only narrate what you both have read....what basis do you have to claim that your narration is authentic and if the wives are Ahl al Bayt then are all the ...

Sayyeds trace their lineage from Prophet Mohammad through his daughter Fatima. They are not Ahle Bayt but still considered Noble in status.


Why do you say they are not considered Ahle Bayt? I haven't heard too much about this, if you could elaborate. I believe the context in the Qur'an it ...

The Islamic civilization used to flourish for centuries. We have lost the influence we used to have in the world, in my opinion due to picking at all our differences instead of focusing on our similarities. What ideas do you all have that would give some impetus and unite the ummah. The Prophet(pbuh ...

so kindly re check your history - Ali(as) did not go fighting Muawiya ....

Was there or was there not a battle of Siffin? I did not say he started the battle...so what are you trying to get at? Did not Hazrat Ali oppose the fact that Muawiyah wanted blood for the murders of Uthman?

...so if the ayats I am showing are not genuine then what you are actually saying is that nothing else is genuine....am I right in drawing this conclusion? haven't I properly referenced the ayats? I have ! so what are you contesting?

i am saying your attempts/arguments to show the Qur'an is ...

Then what do you say to the verses which say that it was revealed in stages? How do you reconcile? Or are you just trying to say it was 'corrupted' with?

There is another opinion, in that the Qur'an was revealed on Laylatul-Qadr onto the Lawh-Mahfuz at one time, and from this it was revealed to the ...

Dear Arshad,

If you look at ayah 16-19 of this surah in light of human interpretations yes you could say that although these ayahs sound out of place but do belong here. The question is how is one to know what you have said above is a true interpretation? You said this is what you believe ...

haroon_adel wrote:...And where's the values for "i" and an "a"?

In Arabic the short vowel sounds ("a," "i" "u") are absent and expressed through symbols written above/below the letters.

Here is the explanation....from the same Sura and subsequent ayats....what is Allah saying?


075.017
YUSUFALI: It is for Us to collect it and to promulgate it :
PICKTHAL: Lo! upon Us (resteth) the putting together thereof and the reading thereof.


075.018
YUSUFALI: But when We have ...

Dear pardesi,

What do you feel about the following ayah? The transliteration is as follows:

17. Inna AAalayna jamAAahu waqur-anahu

75:17. It is for Us to collect it and to promulgate it:

The bolded word in the transliteration as I'm sure you know was to provide emphasis, and comfort the ...

I hope that other members on this forum will give their input so we can get this clarified for everybody including myself.Pardesi

2:219 ...They ask thee how much they are to spend; Say: "What is beyond your needs." Thus doth God Make clear to you His Signs: In order that ye may consider-

Hope ...

do you think I will "butt" out? you must be joking...actually
the Munafiqun will not like to hear from me...the believers love my "purring"....hope the truth did not burn you......too much...use evian water...it will sooth you..

lol, then i'm guessing everyone on this forum is a munafiqun except ...

why? did you miss him? or are you provoking him? is it any of your business where he was ?

why don't you BUTT out! mind YOUR own business. I was talking to shamsu, where did YOU come from? no one wants to hear from you anymore, so just take your negativity out of here if you don't have anything ...

To the best of my recollection Imam SMS farman states

"Aa duniya jahnum cche" which translates into "This world is Hell"

But then He has also said that life is an exalted destiny.

I think of this earth as spiritual rehab. It is not all fun and games.
If we succeed in the detox and ...