In my opinion the true Ismailis should ignore all these trash.
Sun can not hide no matter how hard any one try to hide it.
Do not discuss or debate with anti-Ismaili person or groups about our religion and MHI, and one of day they will know who were on right path.
The best way is stop reading or ...
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- Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:14 pm
- Forum: Current Issues
- Topic: Ismaili facebook pages attacked
- Replies: 17
- Views: 16155
- Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:55 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
"How important is Ali Allah to the faith of Ismailim? It is the essence of the faith. I will give you some examples. Firstly, in 1905 many Ismailis went to Imam Sultan Mohammad Shah and requested that he alter the word Ali Allah. The Imam replied with some very important points. He said that they ...
- Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:47 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
SAMIRNOORALI you said "Don’t you think I know that the Pirs were in the process of converting Hindus? As a matter of fact the Pirs were the heads of the dawat mission to all countries in which conversion was taking place, not only in India. No missionary in history could have ever preached unless he ...
- Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:10 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
so the reason for not accepting it is that its a Christian concept?
You know what makes Islam so different from Christianity? The fact that Islam doesnt believes that Allah the all mighty can take a human form. If we believe allah has taken a human form what makes us different then christians and ...
You know what makes Islam so different from Christianity? The fact that Islam doesnt believes that Allah the all mighty can take a human form. If we believe allah has taken a human form what makes us different then christians and ...
- Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:40 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
so the reason for not accepting it is that its a Christian concept?
You know what makes Islam so different from Christianity? The fact that Islam doesnt believes that Allah the all mighty can take a human form. If we believe allah has taken a human form what makes us different then christians and ...
You know what makes Islam so different from Christianity? The fact that Islam doesnt believes that Allah the all mighty can take a human form. If we believe allah has taken a human form what makes us different then christians and ...
- Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:36 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
- Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:28 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
Re: Noor vs Personage
You samir noorali said "I thank ShamsB for quoting this verse. Its translation: The Pir is saying that he worries whether his followers will recognize the Lord in the human form. In other words will his followers acknowledge Allah as manifest in the human form."
my dear friend you are forgetting ...
my dear friend you are forgetting ...
- Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:40 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
Imranramji: "Now if you say the light of allah has been bestowed on Hazar Imam then it is a totally different concept and this concept can be backed within the quran and many hadiths."<BR><BR>Although we are all spiritual borthers and sisters, every individual has a personal relationship with the ...
- Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:02 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
- Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:46 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
First off i need to know if we are talking about the esoteric or exoteric meaning of "Allah Is truely Allah". I have heard it to many times that allah has taken a human form in the present Hazar Imam. This stance i cannot agree with weither it be the esoteric or exoteric interpretation. I cannot ...
- Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:41 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
shams it is somthing i have heard. i even tried to go to the literature desk in our jamat khana and they told me that MHI has banned the book. I would really like to read some of those firmans if i could get my hands on those.
And because one uninformed person in a position of perceived authority ...
And because one uninformed person in a position of perceived authority ...
- Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:51 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
- Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:51 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
Re: What Ban?
Kalame Imame Mubeen is a collection of farmans that was compiled in 2 volumes. The date of these volumes states 1951, and they were complied in India. It is important to note that the authority that printed these two books was the Ismailia Association for Bombay. This was published under the full ...
- Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:08 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
Re: What Ban?
Thanks Samir - Very well said and very well put - but I think this is falling on deaf ears in the case of someone like Imran whose intent is that of gathering a lynch mob against someone that are his spiritual brethren - and in order to justify his stance - is refusing to see reason.
The action ...
- Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:50 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
Re: What Ban?
Kalame Imame Mubeen is a collection of farmans that was compiled in 2 volumes. The date of these volumes states 1951, and they were complied in India. It is important to note that the authority that printed these two books was the Ismailia Association for Bombay. This was published under the full ...
- Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:26 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
Re: Destroying the Pir's Words
There was an instance of a ginan, in question, that was banned; although there was no order for complete destruction. Such a book is still used for scholarly purposes and continues to be read privately. This ginan was written by a “sayed” not a Pir and so we have to be very careful not to confuse ...
- Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:14 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
Re: Profit
ShamsB wrote:imranramji2008 wrote:ShamsB wrote:
- Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:19 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
- Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:17 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
Re: Kill my baby
If I received a letter from Imam asking me to kill my baby, I would want to be certain it is authentic
This is their baby.
shamsu that is taking it to extreme both you and me know that is extreme. Ok lets say that the first letter was unauthentic. A second letter was then sent by MHI. Still i ...
This is their baby.
shamsu that is taking it to extreme both you and me know that is extreme. Ok lets say that the first letter was unauthentic. A second letter was then sent by MHI. Still i ...
- Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:09 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
Re: Profit
Please show me the hidayah where the Farmans of Imam Sultan Mohammed Shah are banned - for someone that was in Jamat Khana during Chaandrat you don't pay a lot of attention do you?
The Chaandrat farmans are Imam SMS's farmans, a lot of BUK farmans are MSMS's Farmans.
Please don't make blanket ...
- Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:41 pm
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
Re: Profit
All things considered
It makes my blood boil when people say that there is money being made from these books.
Talk to someone who publishes books. Ask how much it would cost to compile and print a book of this calibre
What is going on is just insane.
Are people who manage this website making ...
It makes my blood boil when people say that there is money being made from these books.
Talk to someone who publishes books. Ask how much it would cost to compile and print a book of this calibre
What is going on is just insane.
Are people who manage this website making ...
- Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:47 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
- Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:10 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
- Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:04 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
The announcement was not accurate. <BR><BR>In due time everyone will now the truth. <BR><BR>If you believe that God is in control, leave it to Him. <BR><BR>then tell me nagib the truth. Tell the community the truth if you know it. swear by mowla that these dispicable people in their true intentions ...
- Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:40 am
- Forum: Doctrines
- Topic: kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
- Replies: 207
- Views: 202919
kalam-e-imam-e-zaman
i cannot believe it. I personally at first believed that the councel members were up to their old tricks. That they were mad that they didnt think of publishing the farman book first and wanted attention. After the announcement this last chandrat i am totally convinced the publishers have done wrong ...
- Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:46 am
- Forum: Padhramnis, Mulaquats and Didar other than Jubilees
- Topic: AIGLEMONT 13 DEC. 2008 HYDAYAT
- Replies: 56
- Views: 450875
actually kmaherali we did have our own ismaili namaz during the fatimid times. We said namaz and at the end had all of our imams and did sajodidar at the end of it. do some research
If you read my note, I said recently we have not had our Ismaili Namaz. I am not talking about Fatimid period. What ...
If you read my note, I said recently we have not had our Ismaili Namaz. I am not talking about Fatimid period. What ...
- Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:00 am
- Forum: Padhramnis, Mulaquats and Didar other than Jubilees
- Topic: AIGLEMONT 13 DEC. 2008 HYDAYAT
- Replies: 56
- Views: 450875
- Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:46 pm
- Forum: Customs and Traditions
- Topic: Fasting
- Replies: 419
- Views: 504065
Re: Namaz
Just for the record..we have folks here freely brandishing the word "namaz" around..
Namaz is a word never mentioned in the Qu'ran.
Namaz is a word used by Zorastrians for Fire Worship..
shams you sayed that namaz isnt mentioned in the quran correct but salat is and when we say the word namaz we ...
Namaz is a word never mentioned in the Qu'ran.
Namaz is a word used by Zorastrians for Fire Worship..
shams you sayed that namaz isnt mentioned in the quran correct but salat is and when we say the word namaz we ...
- Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:41 pm
- Forum: Customs and Traditions
- Topic: Fasting
- Replies: 419
- Views: 504065
Re: Fast
Imam has only said that if you tie up an animals mouth that animal will also fast by not eating.
Now if you want to starve yourself and you think you are doing something spiritual then you need to consult Imam's Farman of Baitul Khayal.
Our Faith is esoteric. Nowhere do our Imams describe our ...
Now if you want to starve yourself and you think you are doing something spiritual then you need to consult Imam's Farman of Baitul Khayal.
Our Faith is esoteric. Nowhere do our Imams describe our ...
- Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:26 pm
- Forum: Padhramnis, Mulaquats and Didar other than Jubilees
- Topic: AIGLEMONT 13 DEC. 2008 HYDAYAT
- Replies: 56
- Views: 450875