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by arlenebatada
Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:14 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: QUL
Replies: 312
Views: 178097


Why I asked you question beside others, because in couple of your posts you added s.a.a.s after name of Prophet Muhammad and a.s or RA after name of Mowla Ali and a.s after Hazar Imam. When Noor e Muhammadi and Noor e Ali are same then s.a.a.s should come after both pious names.
S.A.A.S ...
by arlenebatada
Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:43 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Salwat on PIRS
Replies: 15
Views: 11711

To batada.: Ya Ali Madad.
I observe you as haqiqati ,I study the soul by word spoken or expressed by them.
Who was who wrote to MHI ?
As a notional Attorney general of Ali.
If that letter would have come to me first?
I would have send it back to articulated and phrased properly.
As it was written ...
by arlenebatada
Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:25 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: QUL
Replies: 312
Views: 178097

Why MSMS discontinue ALI SAHI ALLAH in new Du'a. Please read the following Farman by mowlana Sultan Muhammad Shah and comment.

JEM HAZRAT MURTAZA ALI YE EEK DEEVAS NAMAZ NI WAKHTEY FARMAWIU(N) KE;" KHUDAYA MANEY BAHASHT NI TAMA' NATHI, TEM HU(N) DOUZAKH THI DHARTO NATHI, JE DUKH DEWU(N) HOYA TE ...
by arlenebatada
Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:07 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Salwat on PIRS
Replies: 15
Views: 11711

You feel I'm lying? I'm an Isma'ili. How can I lie in the name of Hazar Imam (a.s.)?
Perhaps you are misinformed or the Jamat is left in the dark about this important Hidayat. The recitattion of Salwats upon the Pirs is widespread in the Jamat. If there is indeed such a Farman, then it should be ...
by arlenebatada
Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:36 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Salwat on PIRS
Replies: 15
Views: 11711

A person from Karachi in 1960 had written a letter to Hazar Imam (a.s) and asked him if salwat can be recited on Pirs. Imam replied to tariqah board on 10 August 1960 with a letter, which also bore the reply to that person's question. The reply is as follows:
"It is incorrect to take names of any ...
by arlenebatada
Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:47 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Salwat on PIRS
Replies: 15
Views: 11711

No, we cannot recite salwat on anyone except Prophet Muhammad (s.a.a.s) and his progeny. In our du'a also, we never send salwat on Pirs.

Allahuma salli 'ala Muhammadini al-Mustafa,
wa 'ala 'Aliyyini al-Murtada,
wa 'ala al-ai'mmati al-athaar
wa 'ala hujjat al-'amr
sahib al-zamaani wa al-'asr
imaamin ...
by arlenebatada
Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:45 am
Forum: Current Issues
Topic: MHI And Next Imam
Replies: 93
Views: 91304

Every Imam is BORN with the Nur of Imamat. What transfers to the next Imam upon death is the formal authority.

“The Imam is perfect when still in the form of sperm in the loins of his father and the pure womb of his mother. An Imam is always an Imam and always perfect. Otherwise, why should he say ...
by arlenebatada
Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:39 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Allah and the Nur of Allah
Replies: 224
Views: 241277

Imam al-Baqir (a.s.) said:
"Accepting tawhid means to recognize that Allah who cannot be seen with eyes.. He is creator of things and is aware of everything; He is hidden from the beginning as He has explained Himself. You should know that we (the Imams) are the one who are the expression and ...
by arlenebatada
Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:03 am
Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
Topic: Facing Kaba'a
Replies: 160
Views: 222815

Our da'is have talked a lot about the ta'wil regarding Shari'a mentioned in the Qur'an. They were bestowed this knowledge either directly from the Imam in person, or spiritually from the Imam.

Below is an extract from our da'i Ja'far ibn Mansur al-Yaman's Sara'ir, which talks about the esoteric ...
by arlenebatada
Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:45 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: QUL
Replies: 312
Views: 178097


Imams are not called the speaking Qur'an for nothing.
All Imams are not Hafiz Ul Quran.

When I say my Imams are the speaking Qur'an, I don't just mean that they hafiz al-Qur'an, which of course they are. I mean more than that. They are the possessors of the knowledge of the Qur'an- the Qur'an ...
by arlenebatada
Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:13 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: QUL
Replies: 312
Views: 178097

"The diversity in interpretation is something that is inherent to human society. The attempt to normalise has a very little chance to succeed and it would be unethical to the essence of Islam. There is a very famous ayat in the Qur'an that says: 'To yourself, your faith. To myself, my faith ...
by arlenebatada
Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:08 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: QUL
Replies: 312
Views: 178097

Yes everyone is entitled to his own interpretation of what is Islam. For me Imamat is the foundation of the faith. I would certainely not insult the tree by calling it a branch.

Lakum dinukum waliya dini.

“O Messenger of Allah! It is a great Mercy of God that you are gentle and kind towards them ...
by arlenebatada
Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:05 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: QUL
Replies: 312
Views: 178097

I would correct you. Ismailism is Islam. The others may be branches or sect of subsets as you say but Ismailism is neither a branch, nor a sect, nor a subset, it is Islam in its purest unadulterated form. You may disagree, it is a matter of belief.

Our Tariqah has no place for extremism. Do you ...
by arlenebatada
Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:54 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: QUL
Replies: 312
Views: 178097


Shia beliefs are based on interpretation of Ahadith supporting Ali and family and Ahl e Bait. there is no clear command in Quran or Hadith appointing Hz Ali as next leader after Prophet.


It would be incorrect to say that sister. I respect your set of beliefs and your interpretations; but just ...
by arlenebatada
Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:50 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Reincarnation in Islam
Replies: 250
Views: 221930

Imam doesn't open up clearly even to his murids. So it would be an error to pick and choose teachings which we like and disregard the rest.

It would be meaningless if we murids are still bewildered having the guidance of the Imam. I think the statements that you quoted were the address to the ...
by arlenebatada
Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:47 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Reincarnation in Islam
Replies: 250
Views: 221930



Imam Sultan Muhammad Shah (a.s.) clearly disassociates himself from the idea of reincarnation. This is exactly congruent with the open teachings of our da'is and the allegorical teachings of our Pirs, both of which impart the same knowledge with different representations..

As you quoted Imam ...
by arlenebatada
Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:56 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Reincarnation in Islam
Replies: 250
Views: 221930


MSMS has said that Islam is a natural religion. The creation are ayats which must be studied. Hence there is no dichotomy between theology and science; they mutually reinforce each other.

That’s right. Islam is a natural religion. There is no dichotomy between theology and science; they mutually ...
by arlenebatada
Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:52 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Reincarnation in Islam
Replies: 250
Views: 221930

Think about it. We had a glorious Fatimid empire in a Muslim land and now Ismailism has vanished from Egypt. On the other hand, Satpanth tradition established in India is vibrant today across many countries. It is this tradition that has made it possible to establish modern institutions such as the ...
by arlenebatada
Sun Dec 18, 2016 4:20 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Reincarnation in Islam
Replies: 250
Views: 221930


In Ginan,where Imam begum say,Pakdi leejo maro haath.
She asks ALI to handhold her afte her deathr

That's right. Just as we've learned about the story of a water droplet yearning for water in R.E.C. P4 book 3, where that water droplet merges into river (Imam), who takes it to the ocean (Allah ...
by arlenebatada
Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:40 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Reincarnation in Islam
Replies: 250
Views: 221930


No doubt Al Muayyad attained great heights of knowledge, but in our Tariqah there have been many individuals who have attained those heights. For example all the Pirs were bearers of the Noor and were responsible to make Farmans on behalf of the Imam, hence they were considered as having attained ...
by arlenebatada
Sat Dec 17, 2016 6:02 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Reincarnation in Islam
Replies: 250
Views: 221930

Ya Ali madad.
Dais do set set or dictate tariqa a bit.but Imam mossly set and defines it.
That day himself was spirutually trying to recollect his soul n status as Salma Faras.very much possible.
Not of the Royal but very much part of Ahle Bayt.
MHI has told that for Diwan Eboo has served the ...
by arlenebatada
Sat Dec 17, 2016 4:21 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Reincarnation in Islam
Replies: 250
Views: 221930

It is difficult to validate all such claims which are tagged as "scientific". I agree that it is not easy to refute all such claims, but I think that we can consider them as exceptions. I wouldn't call all these case studies as claims but rather documented evidences..

In the field of science ...
by arlenebatada
Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:29 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Reincarnation in Islam
Replies: 250
Views: 221930

Our Isma'ili Tariqah clearly says that there is no reincarnation after death. Our da'is have made it clear.

Dai'i al-Mauyyad fi al-din Shirazi says:
The above mentioned Dai represents one strand of thought in the diversity of our Tariqah. There are other strands which point to reincarnation ...
by arlenebatada
Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:15 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Reincarnation in Islam
Replies: 250
Views: 221930

Our Isma'ili Tariqah clearly says that there is no reincarnation after death. Our da'is have made it clear.

Dai'i al-Mauyyad fi al-din Shirazi says:
"Those who maintain that we shall have bodies, evidently they want us to go backward and enter the wombs of our mothers again. For, our life in the ...
by arlenebatada
Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:45 am
Forum: Pre-Adam
Topic: Vicegerent of Allah?
Replies: 57
Views: 80103


Maherali bhai im confused now !!!!......H.Adam[as] was a prophet[as] and not a Imam....H rasool[saw] was a prophet[as] and not a Imam.....Sri Krishna and Sri Ram were prophets and Imams ???

How it is that some prophets[as] can also be imam's[as] of their time where as few prophets[as] aren't ...
by arlenebatada
Fri May 10, 2013 6:09 am
Forum: Pre-fatimid
Topic: Were Nizari Ismailis The Assassins?
Replies: 2
Views: 17901

Were Nizari Ismailis The Assassins?

I was playing a game - "Assassins Creed" by Ubisoft. No doubt, the game was wonderful. But, then a question came in my mind- "Do Assassins really exist today?"

I researched on the internet and to my horror, I found sources claiming that Nizari Ismailis were the Assassins!! They also claim that ...
by arlenebatada
Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:44 am
Forum: Books
Topic: Where can I find this book? Al-Muayyad-Fid-Din Al-Shirazi
Replies: 1
Views: 15358

Where can I find this book? Al-Muayyad-Fid-Din Al-Shirazi

I'm searching for book named " Life and Lectures of the Grand Missionary Al-Muayyad-Fid-Din Al-Shirazi " comprising 8 volumes
of one hundred lectures, which deals with various theological and philosophical questions, reflecting high watermark of the Ismaili thoughts.

I live in India and I want ...
by arlenebatada
Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:27 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Why there were Yugs after Yugs?
Replies: 1
Views: 3134

Answer is simple. The more an individual moves away from His guidance, the more the person will sin. The people who didn't accept His later guidance and broke the chain of guidance went on the wrong track. In the previous yugs, people adhered to His guidance so the percentage of the sins was ...
by arlenebatada
Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:35 am
Forum: Customs and Traditions
Topic: Hajj
Replies: 15
Views: 30615

Hajj

I am an Ismaili Muslim and I have small question.
Can anyone tell me about Aayats from Quran-E-Sharif or any Hadith by which it can be said that by having Deedar of present Islamic leader (Prophet in the early period and Imam in the present period) is Equavalent to Hajj?

I know that having Deedar ...