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Also, in another place, it says:

NAQSH-E-MA'KOOS-E NIGEEN AZ SAJDA MEGARDAD DUROOST
SAR NAWESHT-E- WAZHGOON RA, RAAST MESAZAAD NAMAZ.

Food for thought.

Once Imam Ja'far-e-Sadiq was asked this question by someone. And the Imam asked the person to lift one foot, and he did. Then the Imam asked him to lift his second foot, while the first foot already lifted. the man said I cannot.

The moral is, that there are certain things, such as Qaza wa Qadar ...

My question remains: why in the modern period the Imam decided to give khojas Bol and not to non-khojas?

Why don't you tell Freeancer why? Is it because you think khoja jama'at is privileged? lol..

Kidding aside. I think you need to read Farameen of Baitul khayal, and understand the meaning and ...

We call Du'a as Salat and it is a Shariyah practice. Tariqat comes after fulfilling Shariyat. Imam do not say Du'a but he does practice Namaz. Mowla Ali used to say Namaz with his followers may be with low grade audience!!. In his Farman below the Imam makes the distinction between the Sharia ...

The translation of Du'a is read by non-Ismailis as well. Hence it would be inappropriate to use notions of Ali Sahi Allah in the context of Dua.


So, are you suggesting that MHI compromised Du'a by not approving/removing Ali Sahi Allah simply because others can read translation? In the meantime ...

I accept Shia Theology as I understand it - taught by our Imams and Pirs.
I also accept that we are an esoteric Tariqah - which allow for multiple interpretations.

It's interesting how you and the various identities of Salimkhoja never post at the same time - but rather as one goes silent the ...

We can have multiple Mazhars of Allah at a given time. There is no issue about that. The only difference between Imamat and other Sufi Masters, is that Imams are born pure - they don't need to be purified by any other source - Light upon Light as though no fire touched it.


Do you even realize ...

And we've quoted other Farmans by Hazar Imam - that you ignore - so why this soapbox?

having a crisis of faith? and seeking validation by bashing up other people's faith?

You have your beliefs - we have ours.

This isn't an institutionally mandated site - it is run and maintained by volunteers ...

Another Ithnashari believe, according yo them every Imam is another Imam, to them there is no concept Noor and we can cleary see that in you.

So what do you think, Imam Shah hassan ali, Imam aga Ali Shah and Imam Sultan mohd Shah who cleary declared them self Allah in there many Farmans are ...

Admin wrote:Quoting BK or any Mijlas Farmans are not allowed on this Forum. Anyone posting this kind of Farmans will have his account deleted.

Why?

According to kmaherali, this is supposed to be a batini forum.

salimkhoja786 brother - I'd suggest ignore these lunatics. They have no idea what they are talking about. As I said, they are destroying the bridges that MHI is trying to build with other communities.

MHI tries to build bridges

Admin wrote: Build bridges but not at the expense of your faith

If you don't have faith in MHI, then what faith are you talking about?
I am no one to question anyone's faith, but you are confronting Imam here.

Re-read what I said, and re-read what you responded.

It is very sad to see, that while MHI tries to build bridges with not only other Islamic branches, but also with non-Islmaic communities to show the real face of Islam, but sadly, some folks here tries to destroy those bridges.

ismaili103 wrote: And yes outdated Quran is for the outdated peoples of C.A who are still living in mud houses..lol

Just so you know kiddo, Ismailis recite from that Qur'an that you and people like you call it outdated, ayats 3 times a day.

So what? Recycling of the Souls is a zaheri concept. Nothing batin about it!


So what? So, it means you are wrong! The point isn't whether 'recycling of soul' is a zaniri matter or batini, but whether it can be accessed by anyone. this proves you were wrong in assuming this is a private space ...

However it is perfectly OK to say these things in a batin context such as this forum


You seem very naive in your understanding of the technology and what is a private or public space on the internet.
just for the fun of it, do a google search for "recycling of the soul" and the first hit you ...

Allah means differently to a polytheist vs monotheist.

kmaherali wrote: Whether he drinks alcohol ...

But He doesn't!

MHI mentioned very specifically that he never touched alcohol nor he would. Isn't it clear? Why would you assume and associate such things to the Imam?

But there is strength in diversity. There is no reason why they should not learn about Indian mythology just as there is no reason for khojas not to learn about the Qasidas and other literature from the Central Asian Jamats.


The question is really not about qasida or ginan. The question sameer ...

kmaherali wrote:...those parts which are relevant for us...

Please tell us what are those parts?

It's very dangerous to take Imam's farmaan out of context and present half-truth.

Quran says," We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe". Surah #21, al Ambiy'a; ayat # 30.
Is there any connection between Noor and Water?

Water in the Qur'an, like Noor, is used allegorically and may not necessarily mean the water as we know it.
In another verse it says ...

Does Quran really talk about wine?
Question: Does wine is permitted in paradise?

Yes it is mentioned.

But, like any other elements, i.e. Water, Noor, wine is allegorical.

In many Ismaili Centers, including the recent in Toronto, this concept is depicted in the Aga Khan Park. In Ismaili Center ...

Quran says," We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe". Surah #21, al Ambiy'a; ayat # 30.
Is there any connection between Noor and Water?

Water in the Qur'an, like Noor, is used allegorically and may not necessarily mean the water as we know it.
In another verse it says ...

My question is that there are several similarities that we seem to have with sufis, what about differences? What major differences do we have with the Sufi tradition? I think the main difference between our tradition and other sufi tariqahs is that ours is a permanent tradition and the institution ...

Light as we know it, is the closest thing we can refer/allegorize to The **Noor**. However, they aren't one and the same.
**Noor** is omnipresent; Light appears to be omnipresent, due to its speed, but it takes light some 8 seconds to reach earth [from the sun].

Noor should be understood in the ...

kmaherali wrote: If you will read the books of Mowlana Rumi and of Shah Shams Tabriz

Shams Tabriz composed a book? Which one?

He does not have to do Ibadat to elevate his soul. He does not have to attend JK to perform all the rituals such as Dua Karavi. He does not have to follow the Farmans. There is a distiction between a murid and a mursheed.


An ismaili can not do all these things either, but still can identify ...

My question is directed to all parents. They should be well acquainted with knowledge of Islam in general and Ismailism in particular.


I think every parent is responsible to provide religious knowledge to their children. Today, religious information [and information in general] is vastly ...

Constitutionally the murid is not an Imam. Below are statements from the constitution.

I think you may have misunderstood this. Let me try again.

Are you differentiating between Ismaili and The Imam ?

In other words, is our Imam Ismaili or not?

So, your reference to Constitution is ...

The key message is that Rumi was himself not an Ismaili.

The Imam in my opinion can never be Ismaili or Muslim or whatever, he is beyond those names as all those Faiths [Sirat al Mustaqueem] follow the Imam and not the other way round. This is obviously on a Batini perspective since we are called ...