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by tret
Mon May 07, 2018 4:05 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Pre-destined or choice?
Replies: 57
Views: 44364

Also, in another place, it says:

NAQSH-E-MA'KOOS-E NIGEEN AZ SAJDA MEGARDAD DUROOST
SAR NAWESHT-E- WAZHGOON RA, RAAST MESAZAAD NAMAZ.

Food for thought.
by tret
Thu May 03, 2018 12:02 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Pre-destined or choice?
Replies: 57
Views: 44364

Once Imam Ja'far-e-Sadiq was asked this question by someone. And the Imam asked the person to lift one foot, and he did. Then the Imam asked him to lift his second foot, while the first foot already lifted. the man said I cannot. The moral is, that there are certain things, such as Qaza wa Qadar, li...
by tret
Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:56 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Four type of Deedar
Replies: 123
Views: 82203

My question remains: why in the modern period the Imam decided to give khojas Bol and not to non-khojas? Why don't you tell Freeancer why? Is it because you think khoja jama'at is privileged? lol.. Kidding aside. I think you need to read Farameen of Baitul khayal, and understand the meaning and pur...
by tret
Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:09 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: QUL
Replies: 313
Views: 103680

We call Du'a as Salat and it is a Shariyah practice. Tariqat comes after fulfilling Shariyat. Imam do not say Du'a but he does practice Namaz. Mowla Ali used to say Namaz with his followers may be with low grade audience!!. In his Farman below the Imam makes the distinction between the Sharia Namaz...
by tret
Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:33 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: SPIRITUAL FATHER
Replies: 31
Views: 18917

Re: OUR BELEVOD SPIRITUAL FATHER

The translation of Du'a is read by non-Ismailis as well. Hence it would be inappropriate to use notions of Ali Sahi Allah in the context of Dua. So, are you suggesting that MHI compromised Du'a by not approving/removing Ali Sahi Allah simply because others can read translation? In the meantime MHI ...
by tret
Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:24 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

I accept Shia Theology as I understand it - taught by our Imams and Pirs. I also accept that we are an esoteric Tariqah - which allow for multiple interpretations. It's interesting how you and the various identities of Salimkhoja never post at the same time - but rather as one goes silent the other...
by tret
Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:36 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

We can have multiple Mazhars of Allah at a given time. There is no issue about that. The only difference between Imamat and other Sufi Masters, is that Imams are born pure - they don't need to be purified by any other source - Light upon Light as though no fire touched it. Do you even realize what ...
by tret
Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:10 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

And we've quoted other Farmans by Hazar Imam - that you ignore - so why this soapbox? having a crisis of faith? and seeking validation by bashing up other people's faith? You have your beliefs - we have ours. This isn't an institutionally mandated site - it is run and maintained by volunteers - if ...
by tret
Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:38 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

Another Ithnashari believe, according yo them every Imam is another Imam, to them there is no concept Noor and we can cleary see that in you. So what do you think, Imam Shah hassan ali, Imam aga Ali Shah and Imam Sultan mohd Shah who cleary declared them self Allah in there many Farmans are posseso...
by tret
Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:20 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

Admin wrote:Quoting BK or any Mijlas Farmans are not allowed on this Forum. Anyone posting this kind of Farmans will have his account deleted.
Why?

According to kmaherali, this is supposed to be a batini forum.
by tret
Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:21 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

salimkhoja786 brother - I'd suggest ignore these lunatics. They have no idea what they are talking about. As I said, they are destroying the bridges that MHI is trying to build with other communities.
by tret
Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:18 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

MHI tries to build bridges
Admin wrote: Build bridges but not at the expense of your faith
If you don't have faith in MHI, then what faith are you talking about?
I am no one to question anyone's faith, but you are confronting Imam here.

Re-read what I said, and re-read what you responded.
by tret
Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:49 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

It is very sad to see, that while MHI tries to build bridges with not only other Islamic branches, but also with non-Islmaic communities to show the real face of Islam, but sadly, some folks here tries to destroy those bridges.
by tret
Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:43 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

ismaili103 wrote: And yes outdated Quran is for the outdated peoples of C.A who are still living in mud houses..lol
Just so you know kiddo, Ismailis recite from that Qur'an that you and people like you call it outdated, ayats 3 times a day.
by tret
Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:08 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

So what? Recycling of the Souls is a zaheri concept. Nothing batin about it! So what? So, it means you are wrong! The point isn't whether 'recycling of soul' is a zaniri matter or batini, but whether it can be accessed by anyone. this proves you were wrong in assuming this is a private space. For a...
by tret
Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:14 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

However it is perfectly OK to say these things in a batin context such as this forum You seem very naive in your understanding of the technology and what is a private or public space on the internet. just for the fun of it, do a google search for "recycling of the soul" and the first hit ...
by tret
Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:26 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

Allah means differently to a polytheist vs monotheist.
by tret
Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:40 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

kmaherali wrote: Whether he drinks alcohol ...
But He doesn't!

MHI mentioned very specifically that he never touched alcohol nor he would. Isn't it clear? Why would you assume and associate such things to the Imam?
by tret
Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:43 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

But there is strength in diversity. There is no reason why they should not learn about Indian mythology just as there is no reason for khojas not to learn about the Qasidas and other literature from the Central Asian Jamats. The question is really not about qasida or ginan. The question sameer aske...
by tret
Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:51 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

kmaherali wrote:...those parts which are relevant for us...
Please tell us what are those parts?

It's very dangerous to take Imam's farmaan out of context and present half-truth.
by tret
Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:34 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

Quran says," We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe". Surah #21, al Ambiy'a; ayat # 30. Is there any connection between Noor and Water? Water in the Qur'an, like Noor, is used allegorically and may not necessarily mean the water as we know it. In another verse i...
by tret
Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:09 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

Does Quran really talk about wine? Question: Does wine is permitted in paradise? Yes it is mentioned. But, like any other elements, i.e. Water, Noor, wine is allegorical. In many Ismaili Centers, including the recent in Toronto, this concept is depicted in the Aga Khan Park. In Ismaili Center in UK...
by tret
Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:25 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

Quran says," We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe". Surah #21, al Ambiy'a; ayat # 30. Is there any connection between Noor and Water? Water in the Qur'an, like Noor, is used allegorically and may not necessarily mean the water as we know it. In another verse i...
by tret
Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:21 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: SUFISM
Replies: 181
Views: 73831

My question is that there are several similarities that we seem to have with sufis, what about differences? What major differences do we have with the Sufi tradition? I think the main difference between our tradition and other sufi tariqahs is that ours is a permanent tradition and the institution ...
by tret
Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:49 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Recycling of souls.
Replies: 626
Views: 135007

Light as we know it, is the closest thing we can refer/allegorize to The **Noor**. However, they aren't one and the same. **Noor** is omnipresent; Light appears to be omnipresent, due to its speed, but it takes light some 8 seconds to reach earth [from the sun]. Noor should be understood in the spri...
by tret
Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:16 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Doctrines of Rumi
Replies: 8
Views: 4226

kmaherali wrote: If you will read the books of Mowlana Rumi and of Shah Shams Tabriz
Shams Tabriz composed a book? Which one?
by tret
Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:07 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: SHAMS TABRIZ - Life, divan and other works
Replies: 72
Views: 49672

He does not have to do Ibadat to elevate his soul. He does not have to attend JK to perform all the rituals such as Dua Karavi. He does not have to follow the Farmans. There is a distiction between a murid and a mursheed. An ismaili can not do all these things either, but still can identify himself...
by tret
Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:43 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: first article of preamble of Ismaili Constitution
Replies: 939
Views: 181504

My question is directed to all parents. They should be well acquainted with knowledge of Islam in general and Ismailism in particular. I think every parent is responsible to provide religious knowledge to their children. Today, religious information [and information in general] is vastly available ...
by tret
Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:30 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: SHAMS TABRIZ - Life, divan and other works
Replies: 72
Views: 49672

Constitutionally the murid is not an Imam. Below are statements from the constitution. I think you may have misunderstood this. Let me try again. Are you differentiating between Ismaili and The Imam ? In other words, is our Imam Ismaili or not? So, your reference to Constitution is irrelevant. &quo...
by tret
Thu Dec 31, 2015 1:04 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: SHAMS TABRIZ - Life, divan and other works
Replies: 72
Views: 49672

The key message is that Rumi was himself not an Ismaili. The Imam in my opinion can never be Ismaili or Muslim or whatever, he is beyond those names as all those Faiths [Sirat al Mustaqueem] follow the Imam and not the other way round. This is obviously on a Batini perspective since we are called B...