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To brother Nuseri: Mowla Ali Madad

Q) Is this Ginan in particular banned/unfit for reading n circulation for our Jamaat now?

A) I am not aware of any Farman made by Shah Karim or any other I mam saying the above ginan is ban.

My guess is you have not read the above Farman properly or at least ...

To brother Nuseri,

The above is one of the interpretation of many. You are most welcome to share your interpretation we might learn something from it.

As Mowla says in his Farman that our Farmans and each and every line of ginan has thousand meanings.

It is all down to what you believe.... You ...

Ya Ali Madad
As far as I am aware there is no difference between Pir and Piraa it is just a different way of saying in different language. In Marathi (Maharashtrian) language both these word can be used depend on how it has been used in a sentence. Below is one example from another ginan it is a ...

This is what my understanding is and also heard in waez (Missionary Abualy) about Mehmaani & Pirji Maani. I am open for any corrections and or comments.

I agree with Admin that there is no such thing as dardaabri in our tariqha. People introduce certain things unknowingly which later becomes ...

Kahe Pir Hassan Kabirdin srevo Nar Har thaan
By Pir Hassan Kabirdin
Tune: Budh Avataar / Khatt Nirinjan

Kahe Pir Hassan Kabirdin srevo Nar Har thaan,
sarve jivun kaa thaapiyaa dhaam 1

1. Pir Hasan Kabirdin says: Obey Hazrat Ali (a.s.) who is manifest, who created holy places for all souls ...

Hope you received my email and got your answer.

The traditional tune of this ginan is the same tune as 'Satpa(n)th Vahoree Viraa Alagaa Na Rahi-e' but there is also another tune in use or available. I myself learned the other tune and then introduce to the traditional tune.

I am not aware of any farman on above by MHI, but the guide lines are that once the burial take place the family should perform the chaalismo ceremony within a week or so due to the busy lifestyle. As this helps the close family members to get on with their lives. It also helps to those members who ...

I guess you are looking for this ginan where we can find the explanation of Das Avatar in detail. The first couple of verses explains the concept of Noor and bit of Surah Ikhalas. While back I did attempt to understand and created its meaning in English. However, it is very difficult and still needs ...

Thank you for the alternate meaning for the word 'hoonar' as you know that the translation was not done by me so I cannot amend.

Regarding the email it is easier if you email me as you have my email. To access the private msg I think we both have to be online at the same time to read them or else ...

Vali vali nar maa(n)hi maa(n)hi ramase
Sayyed Imam Shah

Vali vali nar maanhi maanhi ramshe ... ... ke ho jire bhaai 1

1. O brother! The Lord is manifest in each one or the Lord will repeatedly enact a play.

Vali nar vinaa koi hunar na karshe - ke ho 2

2. O brother! Except for that Lord ...

Association for the Study of Ginans


Ya Ali Madad

The Programme for the Ginan Seminar to take place at the Comfort Hotel Harrow on Sunday 22 April 2012 is given below.


PROGRAMME

10.30 Registration & Refreshments


10.55 Welcome Musa Sheikh


11.00 Ginan Explanation 1 Jaake pachham ...

Thanks for sharing the ginanic proof.

I also add the link in which you made translation of "Jake Pachham Des ne" , it is a good ginan and great translation on the subject of Zahurat, sorry I forgeted before.
Please note the translation of the ginan I shared in the other post was not done by me ...

Below are some sources where I find meaning of Thawar Rat as Thursday not Friday:-

1, As per the " Ananat Akhado" most reliable Ginan on "Zahurat" , the menaing of Thawar Rat is given as Thursday.
2, I also asked same question to one senior, she has lots of knowledge in ginans and its meaning she ...

Amir,
Are you sure? about "THAWAR RAT"? as per my understanding ""Thawar rat" means Thursday night"but I will recheck it again tonight.

Another reference from someone you know.

Eji Dhan dhan rahenni aaj nu din ralliaamann-ji
dhan saa beej, chandr thaavar vaariaa;
rang rachaav-jo
hete sun rang ...

Ya Ali Madad

Brother agakhani

Thaavar Raat means Friday night and not Thursday night. However, the battle (war) will end on Thursday but the coronation ceremony ((Shaah-jo viaa(n)) will be on Friday.

Hope this helps.

BTW: Thursday is Bhrahespati vaar .

yaaraa tith satai(n) maa rohonn ...

Ya Ali Madad

Please find the ginan Jiv chhoddaavaa sat panth miliyaa with meaning and explanation.

Note: This is not the translation of the ginan it is one of the interpretation according to my understanding.

Kind regards
Atharvedi

Jiv chhoddaavaa sat panth miliyaa [/b]
Author: Sayed Imaam ...

Gist much appreciated!

Is this Ginan also to the raaga of "Hete su(n) milo maara munivaro" by chance? I know a few with the same raaga and same Sayyed so I think it kind of looks like it. If anyone knows, it would be appreciated.

Thanks again

Ya Ali Madad

Here is the link for the above ginan ...

Ya Ali Madad

Please find the ginan with meaning.

'Lobh savaarath-e jiv tun bhulio'

I did this while back when I was lerning, and open for any correction.

Note: This is not the translation of the ginan it is one of the meaning or interpretation according to my shallow understanding, forgive me ...

Ya Ali Madad

I am sure most of us as will unanimously agree that Imams' word in form of Farman is final and has the higher authority than any other sacred text. Obviously only to the Ismailis as we are His spiritual children and many a time He shares some secrets with us and these are not available ...

There is no such thing called rules of Karam, infact rules and regulations (DOs & DONT) are set by our Shah-Pir. We as Ismaili believe in Karma.

ejee dosh dayaal jee ne kee-u(n) kar deeje
karam leekheeyaa sohee paave.................................7

Why should we blame our Merciful Lord for our ...

Ya Ali Madad

Please find video links related to the recent conference.

The Canadian Centre for Ethnomusicology at the University of Alberta, in partnership with the Association for the Study of Ginans presented.

Sounds & Spaces of Muslim Piety: Tradition and Transformation

A conference exploring ...

Kalame Imame Mubin, Farman no. 77, Jamnagar 12th Nov 1903

"Agar koi kahe ke, Saaheb khwaabmaa(n) aave chhe to te badhu(n) jutthu(n) chhe. Ame koinaa khwaabmaa(n) aavataa nathi. Te badhaa ddho(n)g chhe; agar koinaa khwaabmaa(n) aave to pann te mannas bolto nathi. Koine amaaro lebaas, paheraavi ...

Farman o­n 'Mowla comes in dream' KIM Farman #77

Kalame Imame Mubin, Farman no. 77, Jamnagar 12th Nov 1903

"Agar koi kahe ke, Saaheb khwaabmaa(n) aave chhe to te badhu(n) jutthu(n) chhe. Ame koinaa khwaabmaa(n) aavataa nathi. Te badhaa ddho(n)g chhe; agar koinaa khwaabmaa(n) aave to pann te ...

From the waez number 632 (Missionary Abualy).

Please note the translation of this ginan is not done by me, it is done by sevenlights one of the member of ismailinet forum.



Eji Jaake paachham dise ne khanddh eraak maanhe
setar dip minjaar ho ji;
ghar sar vadhaayun tiyaan bahu range hoe se,
ne ...

Association for the Study of Ginans

Memo from: Pyarali Jiwa, Chairperson
Date: 17 March 2011

Ya Ali Madad
Preparations are progressing well for the Conference at the University of Alberta at Edmonton, Canada on Friday 29 April, Saturday 30 April and Sunday 1 May 2011.

The Association is Co ...

I think there are altogether 24 speakers from around the globe delivering the lecture/talk. From these 12 will be ginan related.

Yes, raag is the same as the one for the Ginan:
Paratak Paatrane Parakhine.
If anyone knows wordings (by heart or written) and can provide wordings, I will really appreciate it.

Tuj Vinaa ame eklaa
Pir Sadardin (Unpublished ginan)
Tune: U(n)chaa re kott / Partak paatra ne / Kherro kherro ...

Below is a tentative translation of the ginan 'Jug Dwaapur-me jagan aadhariya' . I am open for any correction or comments.

Jug Dwaapur-me jagan aadhariya
Pir Sadardin

Jug dwaapur me jagan aadhariyo
tiyaa(n) rikhiye(n) ku(n) teddi bolyaavyaa ..Saami 1

In Dwaapur joog they (Bhramins) performed ...

Below is an unpublished ginan with the meaning, final version put together with the help of few people. Still open for any correction or comments.

Gur Divaa Gur Chaandrunnaa
Unpublished ginan of PIR SHAMS

Many thanks to the people who helped in the translation.



Gur Divaa Gur Chaandrunnaa ...