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by ismaili103
Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:22 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Laila-tul-Qadr
Replies: 117
Views: 121304

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From the balcony of his palace, Imam Hakim made a declaration to thousands of people: "I am the tenth manifestation of God" Historians said he was mad. Ismailis say he was telling the truth which non-Ismailis could never understand. (Sharia and Haqiqah are two paths worlds apart, they sha...
by ismaili103
Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:55 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Naklanki Gita
Replies: 22
Views: 8889

Re: Naklanki Gita

In Naklanki Geeta, there are additional names in the list of the manifestations of the light of Imamat. NOOR UN ALA NOOR 1. IMAM AHUNAH (AHUNKAAR) - Ego 2. IMAM ALAKH - Beyond Perception 3. IMAM NAAMNIL - Without Name 4. IMAM ANIL - Wind 5. IMAM SOON 6. IMAM SAAN (SHAAM) 7. IMAM NAAN (MAAN) 8. IMAM ...
by ismaili103
Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:18 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: GUR HASSAN KABIRDEEN NE KANIFA JOGEE NO SAMAVAAD - DISCOURSE
Replies: 13
Views: 21058

Re: GUR HASSAN KABIRDEEN NE KANIFA JOGEE NO SAMAVAAD - DISCOURSE

These are indeed years. A total of 4.32 million years for 4 jugs. According to science, first Homo (Homo Habilis) appeared on earth some 2.6 million years ago. Vaman Avatar was the first Homo. Based on above calculations by Pirs, Vaman Avatar appeared 2.592 million i.e. 2.6 million years ago on Earth.
by ismaili103
Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:07 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: VIS TOL
Replies: 8
Views: 9002

Re: VIS TOL

Resurrecting this thread after 18 years :lol:

Does anyone has the text (Gujarati, English, Urdu etc) of Vis Tol Granth?
by ismaili103
Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:38 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

A lot of the issues in the minds of our youth can be solved if ITREB, Council, etc. manage to make them understand that the Imam of the time has the authority to change or abandon Shariah based on the circumstances, but the essence of our faith remains the same. What happened in our JKs during COVID...
by ismaili103
Tue Apr 04, 2023 12:32 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

In past 45 years did IIS produced any tall figure like Nasir Khusraw, Al Kirmani, Qazi Noaman, Mueed Shirazi, Sijistani and others I want to add one thing here, neither you nor me know the spiritual rank of a murid. We don't know the spiritual ranks of those Ismailis who are doing research work and...
by ismaili103
Mon Apr 03, 2023 1:08 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

In past 45 years did IIS produced any tall figure like Nasir Khusraw, Al Kirmani, Qazi Noaman, Mueed Shirazi, Sijistani and others I want to add one thing here, neither you nor me know the spiritual rank of a murid. We don't know the spiritual ranks of those Ismailis who are doing research work and...
by ismaili103
Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:59 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

I stand by my following statement; In modern era Ismailis do not follow da'wah hierarchy as Hazar Imam discontinued conversion. In GINANIC literature there is no mention of 7 or 12 da'wa hierarchy (physical or spiritual). In Pakistan particularly in Karachi and Hyderabad thousands of Ismailis mostl...
by ismaili103
Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:52 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

I stand by my following statement; In modern era Ismailis do not follow da'wah hierarchy as Hazar Imam discontinued conversion. In GINANIC literature there is no mention of 7 or 12 da'wa hierarchy (physical or spiritual). In Pakistan particularly in Karachi and Hyderabad thousands of Ismailis mostl...
by ismaili103
Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:40 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

I stand by my following statement; In modern era Ismailis do not follow da'wah hierarchy as Hazar Imam discontinued conversion. In GINANIC literature there is no mention of 7 or 12 da'wa hierarchy (physical or spiritual). In Pakistan particularly in Karachi and Hyderabad thousands of Ismailis mostl...
by ismaili103
Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:35 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

Twice you mentioned in your posts 'merged with light of Muhammad" neglecting Noor e Ali. By the way who was created first, Universal Intellect or Universal soul. And twice I have mentioned that Ali and Mohammad are One not Two. Universal Intellect -- 1st Universal Soul -- 2nd Both are the Mani...
by ismaili103
Mon Apr 03, 2023 12:31 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

So where you will fit Baab and Abwaab? Indeed Imam is the Proof of God, his physical presence in the world since the beginning is the proof that God exist and manifest himself in the Imam. Pir/Bab is indeed Proof of Imam, without Pir you cannot attain Imam. “Nabi Mohammad Bujo to tame pamsho Imam”....
by ismaili103
Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:42 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

Imam don't has to declare who is his Bab or Hujjah currently, sometimes we have to use our intellect and there is no harm in it. Quran, Ginans and Farman are the example of how we have to use our intellect to interpret it. It's my interpretation that if Imam declared Sabz Ali as Pir Sabz Ali after ...
by ismaili103
Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:39 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

In discussion of HAQA'IQ there is no room for assumption or suppose. Who is male or female Baab in time of Shah Karim? There is a room for assumption in esoteric deen, assumptions is a sign of using your intellect and our religion is a religion of intellect. You hear/read then you assume, then you ...
by ismaili103
Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:32 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

In Fatimid era the basic form of the Ismaili da‘wah hierarchy was as follows: 1. Imam 2. Bab (Gate) 3. Hujjah (Proof) 4. Da‘i (Summoner) 5. Ma’dhun Akbar (Senior Teacher) 6. Ma’dhun Asghar (Junior Teacher) 7. Mustajib (Respondent or Initiate)" In post Alamout period the hierarchy of da'wah was...
by ismaili103
Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:17 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

Alwaiz Abu Ali has written in his book "Ismaili Tariqah"; THE IMAM IS HUJJATULLAH (THE PROOF OF GOD) AND THE KHALIFATULLAH (THE VICEREGENT OF GOD); THE PIR IS HUJJATUL IMAM AND KHALIFATUR RASUL. THE PIR IS LINK BETWEEN THE JAMAIT AND THE IMAM. (Page # 132) He is not wrong. So where you wi...
by ismaili103
Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:40 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

swamidada wrote: Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:24 pm Alwaiz Abu Ali has written in his book "Ismaili Tariqah";

THE IMAM IS HUJJATULLAH (THE PROOF OF GOD) AND THE KHALIFATULLAH (THE VICEREGENT OF GOD); THE PIR IS HUJJATUL IMAM AND KHALIFATUR RASUL. THE PIR IS LINK BETWEEN THE JAMAIT AND THE IMAM. (Page # 132)
He is not wrong.
by ismaili103
Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:40 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

In Fatimid era the basic form of the Ismaili da‘wah hierarchy was as follows: 1. Imam 2. Bab (Gate) 3. Hujjah (Proof) 4. Da‘i (Summoner) 5. Ma’dhun Akbar (Senior Teacher) 6. Ma’dhun Asghar (Junior Teacher) 7. Mustajib (Respondent or Initiate)" In post Alamout period the hierarchy of da'wah was...
by ismaili103
Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:32 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

Salman Farsi was from Ahl Bait therefore he became Baab. Imam Sultan Muhammad Shah declared Wazir Muhammad Remu, Wazir Basariya, and Wazir Rahim were amongst Ahl Bait, but Imam never declared who was Baab or ALL 3 were Baabs. What about Wazir Ismail Gangji and Pir Subz Ali, did they not deserved th...
by ismaili103
Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:15 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

"3 sons and 2 grand sons", Please refer to PREAMBLE article 3. I quote," It being the absolute prerogative of the Imam of the time to appoint his successor from amongst any of his MALE descendants whether they be sons or REMOTER ISSUE. Currently we have 5 Possibilities and it's a FAC...
by ismaili103
Sat Apr 01, 2023 12:14 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

Did Hazar Imam declared Princess Zahra is one of the Baab, you wrote we assume. What about Princess Salima first wife of Hazar Imam, was she a Baab? or after divorce Baab title was taken away!!? Again, I have clearly mentioned that we can ASSUME. You are free to assume who could be the female Bab o...
by ismaili103
Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:19 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

Are there only 4 functions of Universal soul you mentioned that's it!! Can you elaborate the 4 functions you mentioned. You wrote; 1. Pir of time. But at present Imam and Pir are one. 2. Next Imam. Can you tell who will be the next Imam? 3. Who is the female member. Is she a Pir or the soul already...
by ismaili103
Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:13 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

Are there only 4 functions of Universal soul you mentioned that's it!! Can you elaborate the 4 functions you mentioned. You wrote; 1. Pir of time. But at present Imam and Pir are one. 2. Next Imam. Can you tell who will be the next Imam? 3. Who is the female member. Is she a Pir or the soul already...
by ismaili103
Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:03 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

Are there only 4 functions of Universal soul you mentioned that's it!! Can you elaborate the 4 functions you mentioned. You wrote; 1. Pir of time. But at present Imam and Pir are one. 2. Next Imam. Can you tell who will be the next Imam? 3. Who is the female member. Is she a Pir or the soul already...
by ismaili103
Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:00 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

Are there only 4 functions of Universal soul you mentioned that's it!! Can you elaborate the 4 functions you mentioned. You wrote; 1. Pir of time. But at present Imam and Pir are one. 2. Next Imam. Can you tell who will be the next Imam? 3. Who is the female member. Is she a Pir or the soul already...
by ismaili103
Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:50 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

I won't be surprised if Salman is part of Alif Laam Meem. As per the early Ismaili thought, Salman Farsi was the person who reached or his soul annihilated in the Universal Soul. That's why as per the Fatimid and Post Fatimid Ismaili interpretations, Salman Farsi is one of the four Bab under the Im...
by ismaili103
Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:45 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

Not to forget Massignon in his thesis on al-Hallaj explaining Ali, Salman, Muhammad with the 3 letters found in the Quran. I won't be surprised if Salman is part of Alif Laam Meem. As per the early Ismaili thought, Salman Farsi was the person who reached or his soul annihilated in the Universal Sou...
by ismaili103
Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:37 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Alif, Lam Mim
Replies: 58
Views: 176604

Re: Alif, Lam Mim

Bab (Manifestation of Universal Soul) - Pir of the time - Next Imam - One of the female member in Imam's family - Salman (A murid who has reached the level of Universal Soul) In every Imam's time, these four function as the manifestation of the Universal Soul. Are there only 4 functions of Universa...
by ismaili103
Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:54 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Are we Alone?
Replies: 2
Views: 804

Re: Are we Alone?

"Allah alone wishes: the Universe exists; and all manifestations are as a witness of the Divine will. I think that I have sufficiently explained the difference between the Islamic doctrine of the unity of God and, on one side, the theistic ideas, founded upon the Old Testament, and on the other...
by ismaili103
Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:44 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Are we Alone?
Replies: 2
Views: 804

Re: Are we Alone?

Our star Sun is just one of the 200 Billion other stars in our galaxy, Milky Way. As per astronomers, each star in Milky way is orbited by at least one planet, that's around 200 Billion planets in just one galaxy. Further, there are estimated to be around 2 Trillion galaxies in the observable univer...