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by sujjawal
Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:23 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: DAYS OF CREATION
Replies: 25
Views: 8578

Dear sujjawal - I have the original text in Persian as well as the translated text in English by Badakhshani. Kindly explain how do you see, it implies human evolution from animal? It rather explains different worlds (matter, vegetative, animal and human), that came to existence from the realm of s...
by sujjawal
Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:20 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: DAYS OF CREATION
Replies: 25
Views: 8578

So basically you are concurring with the idea of darwin, right? That humans have evolved from chimpanzees... Well my good friend, it's a free world, you can believe whatever you wishes... you cant deny the fact that our dais have not rejected the idea of creation by organic evolution.you can see ho...
by sujjawal
Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:40 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: DAYS OF CREATION
Replies: 25
Views: 8578

Re: DAYS OF CREATION

Another point: Qiamat according to Ismaili theology does not mean the destruction of physical world. It's rather revelation of esoteric meaning of religious concepts. but in an artical Mr. shafique N.virani writes as follows The Qa’im is from among the descendants of the Asas and represents the pin...
by sujjawal
Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:24 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Qayamat!
Replies: 12
Views: 12564

i would like to know about what you guys have view about that with the advent of Qaim ul Qyama in the seventh day(the day of sabath or the Great day of ressuraction,will this world come to an end or not? with the advent of Qaim al Qyama the universal soul attains perfection and raises at the level o...
by sujjawal
Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:56 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: DAYS OF CREATION
Replies: 25
Views: 8578

DAYS OF CREATION

YAM! We all know it very well that seven days of creation do not refer to the creation of physical world rather it actually refers to creation of spiritual cosmos.these seven days refer to seven eras of the creation of spiritual cosmos. but the thing which is still unclear in my mind is ''if there h...
by sujjawal
Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:54 am
Forum: Pre-Adam
Topic: theory of organic evolution
Replies: 3
Views: 5929

theory of organic evolution

ya ali madad all what you guys say if our faith accepts or deny the theory that human beings have appeared by passing through a series of evolutionary stages of lower animals.Being a biologist i know many evidences that supports this theory but i am still in a big confusion about what our ismaili fa...
by sujjawal
Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:45 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Pir Shah
Replies: 12
Views: 3996

Re: Pir Shah

. From IT, the Universal Soul has come to existence by Universal Intellect's mediation. Now Universal Soul is perfect in potentiality but not in actuality. To actualize ITself [Universal Soul], it generates movement which creates matter [The universe, Heaven and Earth and individual souls]. Univers...
by sujjawal
Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:27 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Pir Shah
Replies: 12
Views: 3996

Imamat = Universal Intellect
Hujjat = Universal Soul
tret!
can you please explain what is difference between universal intellect and universal soul
by sujjawal
Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:17 am
Forum: THIS FORUM - RULES ETC
Topic: Ask Admin
Replies: 252
Views: 463971

Admin, [/b] Tret/ Sheri/ Sujjawal are same person, no doubt about that but you are blind so that you can not find that. As a admin you must have to grow your third eyes, otherwise peoples like Tret/Sheri/Sujjawal will make you even more fool. brother i dont know who tret and sheri are; but what i k...
by sujjawal
Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:05 am
Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
Topic: DUA KARAVI- PLEASE HELP!!!!
Replies: 12
Views: 24106

Re: DUA KARAVI- PLEASE HELP!!!!

Ya ali madad. I was hoping someone could help me. I am a new ismaili member in the UK and learning everything about the religion. I am quite confused on what we recite when we do dua after jamat ceremony. So like when we go to mukisaheb/mukiyanima and give them money in their hand what do we then s...
by sujjawal
Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:16 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: 5 Pillars of Islam
Replies: 112
Views: 39158

Do you not see that Allah has made what is in the heavens and what is in the earth subservient to you, and made complete to you His favors outwardly and inwardly? And among men is he who disputes in respect of Allah though having no knowledge nor guidance, nor a book giving light. The whole story t...
by sujjawal
Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:53 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: 5 Pillars of Islam
Replies: 112
Views: 39158

Where you get this translations? All you deviants do is play games with Quran and Sunnah look at the arabic of this ayat(chapter7 verse 53) the word is TAWILEHI. The meaning of sequel is continution or somthing that follows.you can find this on following link http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sequel...
by sujjawal
Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:37 am
Forum: Current Issues
Topic: How to convert in Pakistan?
Replies: 2
Views: 3475

Re: How to convert in Pakistan?

I am sunni Muslim planning to convert to ismaillism in Pakistan. The Reason? Ismailism and Iman inspires me alot. As of right now can anybody help me in getting the right direction on how to convert? The procedure? brother if you really want to to convert then i must tell you it is very difficult t...
by sujjawal
Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:00 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: 5 Pillars of Islam
Replies: 112
Views: 39158

They are known as muqatta'at. Nobody has given precise and authentic meaning. If you ask two people who claims to have this knowledge they will give you three answers. oh no body among you can also never give precise meaning because you dont have any imam.can you tell me that if meanings of these w...
by sujjawal
Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:26 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: 5 Pillars of Islam
Replies: 112
Views: 39158

zznoor wrote:There are many translations so it is nice to give name of translator also. to zznoor! thats the thing; you people even dont have same translations of quran;not same tafsirs.each scholar can give his own interpretations of quran and sharyat and preach it to otfers thus giving rise to th...
by sujjawal
Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:58 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: 5 Pillars of Islam
Replies: 112
Views: 39158

zznoor wrote:There are many translations so it is nice to give name of translator also. to zznoor! thats the thing; you people even dont have same translations of quran;not same tafsirs.each scholar can give his own interpretations of quran and sharyat and preach it to otfers thus giving rise to thi...
by sujjawal
Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:17 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: 5 Pillars of Islam
Replies: 112
Views: 39158

we consider imam to be guide appointed by Allah Himself to reveal the hidden meanings of quran Brother Please post few nuggets of hidden meaning of Quran from your Maula. Just talking about hidden meaning, hidden meaning is not enough. Just like Admin saying; Imam made certain fast Haram but I will...
by sujjawal
Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:36 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Dait kalinga
Replies: 127
Views: 79158

to agakhani!
thanks a lot for giving such a good explanation.
by sujjawal
Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:22 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: 5 Pillars of Islam
Replies: 112
Views: 39158

zznoor said: You must really understand what real meaning of "THOSE IN AUTHORITY AMONG YOU". It will help if you read Maudidi's comment on 4:59. You will find it on tafheem.net/tafheem.html to zznoor we donnot consider interpretations of sunni approach to be true.it may be true for yoursel...
by sujjawal
Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:53 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: 5 Pillars of Islam
Replies: 112
Views: 39158

@Sujjwal This is example of what Ismailis think of Quran and Hadith. Many like you are polite but for decency sake only. Forget the fake hadith (SHIT) of dead narrator .I have given you a Live challenge on your face for today n tomorrow n not of stinking past data. I along with may forum members ma...
by sujjawal
Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:43 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: 5 Pillars of Islam
Replies: 112
Views: 39158

to zz noor! it is your misconception that we ismailis consider Quran questionable.we consider interpretations of Quran that you make to be questionable.as Quran says "AND IF THEY HAD REFERRED IT TO THE MESSENGER AND TO THOSE IN AUTHORITY AMONG THEM,THOSE OF THEM WHO CAN SEARCH OUT KNOWLEDGE OF...
by sujjawal
Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:30 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Dait kalinga
Replies: 127
Views: 79158

in moman tchetamani verse no 206, pir says: ' "Once after going around different towns, he came to a place called Mahachin, where he converted Rani Surja and her son Prince Kamla. Her husband was Daint Kalingo'". in above verse can anybody tell me what is meant by Mahachin and daint kainga...
by sujjawal
Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:28 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: 5 Pillars of Islam
Replies: 112
Views: 39158

to zz noor! it is your misconception that we ismailis consider Quran questionable.we consider interpretations of Quran that you make to be questionable.as Quran says "AND IF THEY HAD REFERRED IT TO THE MESSENGER AND TO THOSE IN AUTHORITY AMONG THEM,THOSE OF THEM WHO CAN SEARCH OUT KNOWLEDGE OF ...
by sujjawal
Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:20 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: Changes in the Ginans
Replies: 212
Views: 243172

YA ALI MADAD! I have been recently converted to the Shia Imami Ismaili tariqa from sunniism and have adopted Pir nasir khusrau's tradition and while in my study of khoja tadition I have seen in many of the ginans books which are beieng published by ITREB pakistan that verses regarding the topic of d...
by sujjawal
Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:34 am
Forum: Ginans
Topic: CHANGES IN GINANS TEXT
Replies: 1
Views: 4721

CHANGES IN GINANS TEXT

YA ALI MADAD! I have recently converted to the Shia Imami Ismaili tariqa.what i have seen in many of the ginan books being published by ITREB pakistan is that in many ginans verses which talk about das avtar have been omitted from ginan texts and same is the case with terms of wishnu and maheshwar.i...