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Krishna was before Buddh Awatar. In the Asal Dua there was a genealogy of the Imams before Hazrat Ali going back to Adam and before Adam too.

The Dua while giving the genealogy said "Buddh ma this Shish" which means the Imamat of Buddh was continued in Shish.

The genealogy from Shish is the ...

There is no million dollars question and I have already refuted your Hoodboy's allegations as not accurately depicting what the Imam said. Y

ou know 7 languages but can not understand plain English? I also know 7 languages so what? Where I come from, many people know many languages. You don't even ...

Now refering to quote ' Ali rupe Hari aaviya ' means Ali came in shape or appearance of Hari.

During his first visit after partition MSMS said to Waras Hud bhai first president of Ismailia Association Pakistan " Waras Ginan mey Hari ko Ali kardo".

Past three decades, what ever publications of ...

TBH I have no access to this book but I have read about this story. It is true that some people are born with special capabilities but, what capabilities have to do with reincarnation? I am not criticizing her spiritual capabilities but in my view NDE is not equivalent to rebirth or reincarnation ...

Still waiting for the Ginan 'Ali Rupey Hari Aawiya'!!

You have been waiting since 14 March 2017 for this reference. Better late than never:

Ginan by Syed Imam Shah: Dailam Desh ne khand Eraq mahe

I have given here a copy from an old Khojki manuscript so you know it is not a recent invention ...

I gave historical quotes and gave reference. You are mind set. Problem is if references goes in your favor you accept it and be happy, and if these references goes against your philosophy (and of those who have complaints about me) you start criticizing. There are more historical facts coming out ...

The bedouins say, "We have believed." Say, "You have not [yet] believed; but say [instead], 'We have submitted,' for faith has not yet entered your hearts. And if you obey Allah and His Messenger, He will not deprive you from your deeds of anything. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful." 49:14 ...

A quote from Wikipedia article:


On 8 September 1958, Pakistan purchased the Gwadar enclave from Oman for 5.5 billion Rupees (equivalent to US$1.1 billion). The Agreement had two important clauses: (1) All Balochistan would form a military recruitment source for Oman; as a result, Balochis ...

In this paragraph which you quoted from Memoirs, there is no mention of Prophets before Adam. What about Sri Ram and Sri Krishna?

Was philosophy of lakh chourasi included in IIS teachings? Was there any special course on this subject like Quran or history?
The ITREB guidance was for missionaries ...

I have not read the book but have read an article about her.

The question is about recalling past. The quotation from Memoirs is not addressing question about past lives but is about immense love with who is above all else. Did Hafiz, Rumi, or Christ mentioned about their previous life stories? I ...

Even if you don't accept reincarnation, what is the entity that survives death and is reborn in the higher spheres as per MSMS?

The NDE ( near death experiences) can not be equated with reincarnation. In NDE case a person is survived and revived in same body still soul staying in body and not ...

You quoted fro Memoirs," all Islamic schools of thought accept it is as fundamental principle that for CENTURIES for thousands of years before advent of Muhammad......". Please pay attention to word CENTURIES also, what do you mean by that...hundred thousands?
I gave reference of Talmud and Hadith ...

According yo Talmud and Ahadith, story of Adam is around 6000 years old. Islam started with Adam. Being Muslims Ismailis believe in all Prophets from Adam to Muhammad. That is what Imam mentioned about thousands of years of history.. Usually in a conversation, when one says thousands of years, it ...

BI ZAMEEN CHU SAJADAH KARDAM
ZI ZAMEEN NIDA BAR AAMED
KI MARA HAAL KHARAB KARDI
TU BI SAJADAH RIYAAEI

IRAQI

When I prostrated on zameen (ground- earth), the voice came out of zameen
(ground) that your hypocrite prostration ruined me.

JO MAI(N) SAR BI SAJADAH HUA KABHI
TOU ZAMEEN SE AANEY LAGI ...

Admin,

I wanted to let you know that i've stopped reading and wanting to participate in a lot of these discussions because it seems that there are individuals who are intent on forcefully hammering their understanding (or lack thereof) of the faith and not willing to allow for multiple ...

HUM TALIB E SHUHRAT NAHI, HUME(N) NANG SE KIA KAAM

BUDNAAM AGAR HU(N)GE TOU KIA NAAM NA HOGA

SHEEFTA

ABB KE ISS DAUR MEY SOHNI
GHAREY TOU SAREY PAKKEY HAI(N)
MAGAR MENHWAAL KACHEY HAI(N)

NAYYAR

MEREY HATHU(N) KE TARASHEY HUEI PATHAR KE SANAM

AAJ BUTT KHANU ME BHAGWAAN BANEY BAITHEY HAI(N)

JAAT NA PUCHHE PAAT NA PUCHHE NA PUCHHE GA TERA DHARMA

RUBB TERA PUCHHE GA BUNDHEY KIYA THA TERA KARMA (DEEDS)

YUSUF KA YAHA(N) KOI KHARIDAR NAHI HAI
SHOWCASE ME SAJI BAITHI HAI ZULEKHA MERE AAGEY

DILAWAR FAGHAR

KIYA NOOR KI BARISH HOTI HAI, KIA ILM KE DARIYA BAHTEY HAI(N)
JUBB ZIKR E MUHAMMAD HOTA HAI, JUBB NAAM E ALI AATA HAI

God's principle apply to all human beings without discrimination. Some people recall past life and some do not is against natural laws. Scientific research keep changing. Once they said Aspirin is not good for heart now they say it is must for heart and arteries. Once they said vitamin E and fish ...

The term BIRTH can not be used for soul. Soul do not take birth. It is a creation of God and exists from primordial time. The soul is ordered by God to adopt a body according to His will.
When soul leaves body after prescribed time can not come back on its own for fulfillment of left over desires ...

DARMIYAN QA'ER E DARYA TAKHTAH BUNDUM KARDAEI
BAAZ MI GOEI DAAMAN TAR MA KUN HUSHIYAR BAASH

HAFIZ SHIRAZI

He tied me with plank of wood and threw me in the river, (then standing on bank) said, beware do not wet your clothes.

MU(N)KHEY PRIYA(N) BHADHI WIDHO TAAR MEI(N)
UBHA EEI(N) CHAWAN MATA(N ...

[That particular farman has nothing to do with reincarnation or Dus Avtars. OK do you have Farmans which indicate that the Farman on Das Avtars is no more valid? On the contrary MHI has provided a Hidayat that our faith is based upon thousands of years of history. Where are the thousands of years ...

There is a book in Ismaili Tariqa having status of a Pir. Did Imam delegated some of his authority as a Pir to this book. Is this book walking talking entity? A book can serve as a vehicle of guidance just as a person.

At that time how many converted knew Persian in subcontinent to get guidance ...

A manager knows the work of a clerk and is an authorized person by CEO. Where as a clerk is not an authorized person. He doesn't know the accounting, can't make deals with vendors, can't sign the bank checks. A manager is round the clock responsible for business, where as a clerk is responsible ...

It is wrong to say that Imamat and Piratan have merged now. This is inaccurate. Many Imams in the Past (at least a dozen times) were also Pir at the same time. I suggest you learn about the genealogy of the Pir so you can see where you have missed the boat.

http://www.ismaili.net/histoire/chart7 ...

As a rule of thumb or a general rule, when one Prophet is Avtar means his fellow brother Prophets should be Avtars. In a Hadith (some where I read) Prophhet Muhammad said, " we the Prophets of Allah are like brothers. We have the same mission".
Let us take your opinion 'all Prophets are not Avtars ...

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Many Farmans are made in such a way as a learned person would notice the Farman by the Imam and the Explanation by the PIr.

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What a strange explanation," Only learned persons would notice the Farman is made by Imam and explained by Pir".
What about unlearned and illiterate ...