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by shivaathervedi2
Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:51 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: GINAN RECITATIONS
Replies: 95
Views: 88908

Have you realized how these musicians have changed the Raga. They have mostly embedded the fast beats to modern Hip Hop and Rock music.
by shivaathervedi2
Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:46 pm
Forum: Pre-Adam
Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
Replies: 136
Views: 165940

Adopted:

During Satyug, which God and Goddesses people used to worship?

Ramesh Sundar, BK from Brahma Kumaris World Spiritual University (2007)
Answered Jan 27, 2018.

During satyug earth was heaven. No issues, no god., no prayers. All are happy. God is one. He is the father of all souls in the ...
by shivaathervedi2
Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:35 pm
Forum: Pre-Adam
Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
Replies: 136
Views: 165940


This is what Hazar Imam is doing instead of Pir Hasan. Naklanki is not creating institutions for salvation but it is his guidance through which an adept shall get salvation.
Satya Yoga was world of ocean creatures mainly fishes. So he has to take Avtar of Fish to explain fishes. Fishes will not ...
by shivaathervedi2
Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:09 pm
Forum: Pre-Adam
Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
Replies: 136
Views: 165940


How! Modern science is after producing chemical weapons, atomic missiles, laser rays weapons, cloned armies, star wars futuristic weapons, F-35 then F-45, or science will unearth some more mummys to shed light on. Science is evolving. The understanding of science 200 years hence will be different ...
by shivaathervedi2
Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:22 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Quranic Honorific Symbols, Terminologies, Exegesis
Replies: 23
Views: 30485

ULUL ALBAAB:

He grants wisdom to whom He wants. And to whom wisdom is granted indeed receive abundant good. But none will grasp the wisdom except men of understanding. Al Baqrah 2/269.
The phrase ULUL ALBAAB is used 16 times in Quran means men of understanding (people of intellect). Wisdom is LUBB ...
by shivaathervedi2
Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:18 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Imam and Imamat
Replies: 378
Views: 255863

Not annoying any one, if it is 'Akl e Kul, still he got losses in businesses, matrimonial issues and other things. 'Akal should have showed clear path.

Your sarcasm is not welcomed n this board. If you want to judge why Imam does what for everything you interpret as Imam's failure, you should ...
by shivaathervedi2
Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:10 pm
Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
Topic: Facing Kaba'a
Replies: 160
Views: 216804

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The first Pir The Prophet (according to satpunthi Ismailis) performed hajj and encouraged his followers to do so. Please remember it was hajj occasion where Prophet designated Ali as Imam. I consider Pirs as role models. Pir Sadardin's Ginans have not restricted performing Hajj. The context of ...
by shivaathervedi2
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:30 pm
Forum: People
Topic: Sindhi Sufi Poet Shah Abdul Latif Bhittai
Replies: 106
Views: 157303

ASEE(N) SIKU(N) JIN KHE SE TAA(N) ASEE(N) PAAN
HAN(N)EY WA(N)JH GUMAAN SAHI SU(N)JHATO SUPREE(N)

We yearn for those who we are ourselves
O’ Doubt! Leave, I have recognized the Beloved.

ASEE(N) SIKU(N) JIN KHE ASEE(N) PIN(N) SEHI
LUM YALID WA LUM YULAD WU'(N)U ODHAHI(N) PEHI
TAHA(N) MUNJHA(N)HI ...
by shivaathervedi2
Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:17 pm
Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
Topic: Facing Kaba'a
Replies: 160
Views: 216804



That what I am doing. I memorized the meaning of Du'a and follow what Preamble says. Still waiting for reply," When Mata Salamat performed Hajj to which direction she faced to say salat in Mecca"?

How is that relevant to your life? Mata Salamat did many thing whcih you are not doing. Memorising ...
by shivaathervedi2
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:27 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Imam and Imamat
Replies: 378
Views: 255863

Reading Ivanov and Ann marie Schimmel , they were Rasikunfiilm not necessarily Ismailis and Swami Vivekananda a non Ismaili well defined in the holy book as Rasikunfiilm ( mentioned as they which mean many male or female ).
without valid Shia doctrines ( work of who were not Imams) ,nobody would ...
by shivaathervedi2
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:12 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Imam and Imamat
Replies: 378
Views: 255863


Karim Sir, I appreciate you are trying hard to validate your point. Please take all articles of Preamble for consideration and not just one article. Are Ismailis not Shias? Do they not follow Ja'fari Madhab as Imam mentioned? Ismailis believe all Imams as Ali. So this is the same Noor of Ali who ...
by shivaathervedi2
Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:01 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Imam and Imamat
Replies: 378
Views: 255863


Karim Sir, you drifted away from your ideology, your words are " all actions of Imam are informed by the Noor", means Imam is informed by some outside source what to do!! Noor of who is guiding Imam, obviously that is Noor of Allah. Now you are on right track. Hence he is Akl -e-kull and does not ...
by shivaathervedi2
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:43 pm
Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
Topic: Facing Kaba'a
Replies: 160
Views: 216804


Pir Sadardin and other Pirs performed HAJJ, to which direction in Mecca they face to say salat. Was Pir Sadardin not aware that Allah's Noor is every where? We don't follow what the Peers did or do. We follow what they tell us to do. Has Peer Sadardeen mentioned that we must perform Hajj in his ...
by shivaathervedi2
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:34 pm
Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
Topic: Facing Kaba'a
Replies: 160
Views: 216804

Admin wrote:Follow the Imam of the Time and all your questions will disappear.
That what I am doing. I memorized the meaning of Du'a and follow what Preamble says. Still waiting for reply," When Mata Salamat performed Hajj to which direction she faced to say salat in Mecca"?
by shivaathervedi2
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:32 pm
Forum: Pre-Adam
Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
Replies: 136
Views: 165940


The responsibility of Avtars was the salvation of souls. When Pir Hasan as a savior freed unlimited souls then what job is left for Naklanki?? The role of Peer Hasan Kabeerdeen is to guide and pray for the salvation of souls. Hence we have Shukarvari Beej in gratitude for this service. The role ...
by shivaathervedi2
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:22 pm
Forum: Pre-Adam
Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
Replies: 136
Views: 165940


There is a detailed description of this concept in late Dr Gulshan Khakee's thesis (http://ismaili.net/heritage/node/29102) but of course the amazing topic of time and cycles needs more research. As we move towards the enlightened age of Satya Yuga, there will be more and more scientific evidence ...
by shivaathervedi2
Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:03 pm
Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
Topic: Facing Kaba'a
Replies: 160
Views: 216804

Once the direction is set, there shall be no change later.

Do you even realise what you are saying and how ridiculous an answer this is to explain where your descendants will turn while residing in Ganymede or other planets???????

Ismailis believe Allah is everywhere all the time so we are not ...
by shivaathervedi2
Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:48 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Imam and Imamat
Replies: 378
Views: 255863

[ Why don't you people accept Preamble by Imam which explains the real Ismailism. If you people have so pain with Preamble request Imam to withdraw it.
If you read the preamble carefully, it states general Shia doctrine and then Ismaili specific doctrine/matters. You keep alluding to the Shia ...
by shivaathervedi2
Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:35 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Imam and Imamat
Replies: 378
Views: 255863

Instead of cursing me better you people curse these publications.

We don't need to do what you are saying. The problem is not the publications, it is the Shariati interpretation of everything in Ismailism, from the concept of Imam to the concept of Knowledge (Ginan) to our rites and rituals to ...
by shivaathervedi2
Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:18 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Imam and Imamat
Replies: 378
Views: 255863


Imam had big losses in businesses, Imam had matrimonial problems, were those Noor inspired?
Regarding mistakes, I am not blaming him, I am quoting what he said and I believe him, if you not fine with me not a biggy. All actions of the Imam are informed by the Noor. You cannot judge the actions of ...
by shivaathervedi2
Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:10 pm
Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
Topic: Facing Kaba'a
Replies: 160
Views: 216804

Which direction is Kaba. In North America half of the Masjid face Kaba in the north west direction and the other half in the south west direction, please educate your self first, is the distance shorter in the north east or in the south east?

And reply the question instead of trying to divert. If ...
by shivaathervedi2
Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:52 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: GINAN RECITATIONS
Replies: 95
Views: 88908

There is a Ginan App on Heritage with audio and translations whenever available. The App is for Android which dominate the mobile market at this point. The version 2 of the App is under preparation and will be more complete, for example all of the ginans will have an audio.

http://www.ismaili.net ...
by shivaathervedi2
Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:47 pm
Forum: Pre-Adam
Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
Replies: 136
Views: 165940


Momentarily!!! The non human Avtars stayed for more than two Yugas and you say momentarily. To appreciate the temporary/momentary basis of the appearance of Avatars to perform specific tasks for the upliftment and benefit of the devotees, please read verses 403 - 437 of Anant Akhado at: http://www ...
by shivaathervedi2
Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:12 pm
Forum: Pre-Adam
Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
Replies: 136
Views: 165940


Rama was the first complete human Avtar and Pahlaj was before him in Karta Yuga means he was not in human form, in other words Avtar of mammals and different animals.
You are confusing evolution with the appearance of the Avatars. There is no relationship. The Avatars assumed non-human forms ...
by shivaathervedi2
Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:56 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: GINAN RECITATIONS
Replies: 95
Views: 88908

kmaherali wrote:
shivaathervedi wrote: Are translations included with that application?
They are not, but are available from other sources such as this site.
So the listeners first will listen on application. Then try to find the translation of that particular Ginan on Heritage site. TIYAAR SUDHI VEERA BAI VAPRAI JASHEY.
by shivaathervedi2
Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:51 pm
Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
Topic: Facing Kaba'a
Replies: 160
Views: 216804

Why we face Ka'ba while performing Eid Namaz, Janazah Namaz, and Juma Namaz? I know for sure we don't face Ka'ba when performing Eid Namaz. For the other two I am not quite sure.

You pretend not to know. In Central Asian countries where Ismailis live, in Afghanistan, China, Pakistan, India ...
by shivaathervedi2
Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:40 pm
Forum: Rites and Ceremonies
Topic: Facing Kaba'a
Replies: 160
Views: 216804



What direction will they face in two hundred thousands years when there is no planet earth and there is no Kaba and they are residing on Planete Ganymede?

Common sense or no sense, when there will be no planet Earth after two hundred thousand years means there will be no human beings on planet ...
by shivaathervedi2
Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:03 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Imam and Imamat
Replies: 378
Views: 255863

Your problem has always been that you understand the "Imam" as a body made of flesh with an expiry date, when other understand the eternal Noor as "Imam". As said Mowlana Sultan Muhammad Shah, the Shariati will never understand the Farmans and it is only though Farmans that one can define what is ...
by shivaathervedi2
Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:52 pm
Forum: Pre-Adam
Topic: time period of jugs and avatar
Replies: 136
Views: 165940

My take; when thinking of 1400 years or 1000 years in past is not valid how come then thinking of past 700 years? Even the thinking of 700 is invalid if it is superseded by the present Imam.

Let me ask 2 questions before we proceed to parts of Ginan you mentioned.
1. Which Avtar was in complete ...
by shivaathervedi2
Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:36 pm
Forum: Ginans
Topic: GINAN RECITATIONS
Replies: 95
Views: 88908

kmaherali wrote:
shivaathervedi wrote:Appreciate their effort, but wander mostly Ismailis particularly youth in North America do not understand or speak Gujrati, how shall they understand the meaning, message, and spiritualism in ginans.
One way is through translations...
Are translations included with that application?