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by schatoor
Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:35 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Nahj Al-Balagah sermon 80 "Physical defects of women&am
Replies: 20
Views: 12988

The reason why, I think there were no woman prophets is because socity simply was not ready to accept female leaders. The problem lay with the people, not with the women.
by schatoor
Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:09 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Nahj Al-Balagah sermon 80 "Physical defects of women&am
Replies: 20
Views: 12988

Nahj Al-Balagah sermon 80 "Physical defects of women&am

Hi,

My question is about the Nahj al Balagah (peak of eloquence), which is a collection of saying by Hazrat Ali (a.s.) What do you make of the following:


O' ye peoples! Women are deficient in Faith, deficient in shares and deficient in intelligence. As regards the deficiency in their Faith, it ...
by schatoor
Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:06 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque
Replies: 14
Views: 30696

He thanks! This reminds me of suar 23 ayat 17 of the Qur'an ;


Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay);

Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;

Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we ...
by schatoor
Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:52 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Are some parts of Dua taken from the 10 parts
Replies: 20
Views: 11817

Imam SMS has clearly mentioned that apart from changing the order of verses, things were added to it and things were edited out from it.
shamsu, can you tell me which farman you are talking about?
by schatoor
Sat Dec 25, 2004 4:19 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque
Replies: 14
Views: 30696

Sacred Mosque to the farthest Mosque

Ya Ali Madad,

I was reading about the story of mir'aj, the ascent of the Holy Prophet (sas) to heaven. Those following a more esoteric interpretation of Islam understand that this ascent happend in an spiritual rather then and material way. The soul of the Holy Prophet was elevated to the point ...
by schatoor
Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:33 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Some more questions.
Replies: 8
Views: 7240

Thank you very much!
by schatoor
Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:05 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Some more questions.
Replies: 8
Views: 7240

Some more questions.

Hello, Maybe you have alraigdy figured it out, but I am very active on other muslim but non-Ismaili forums. People there know I'm Ismaili and sometimes they ask questions I cannot answer. Thats why I come here, so that a more knowlegdable Ismaili brother may help me.
So again, today, someone asks ...
by schatoor
Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:05 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: The concept of the last Imam in Ismailism
Replies: 3
Views: 3777

So the day of Qiyama will be a time when we personally are judged, instead of a time when all the souls are judged at ones?
by schatoor
Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:54 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: The concept of the last Imam in Ismailism
Replies: 3
Views: 3777

The concept of the last Imam in Ismailism

Ya Ali Madad,

Does any one know what the Ismaili concept of the last Imam is in Ismailism? Other shia muslims believe in an Imam Mehdi who will return near the day of judgment. But what should our view on this issue be?
I know some ginans deal with this issue. But I can't remember which ones.
by schatoor
Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:45 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: A non-Ismaili askes about certain passages from the old dua
Replies: 7
Views: 513537

shamsu: if Mawlana Sultan Muhammad Shah said so, then I stand corrected. But I would like to read the farman my self. Can you be more specific on the farman in which SMS said this?
A question; some time ago I asked about Rumi on this board. SMS said that Rumi him self was not an Ismaili but he was ...
by schatoor
Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:40 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: A non-Ismaili askes about certain passages from the old dua
Replies: 7
Views: 513537

Ah yes, shariat, triqat, haqiqat and marifat. We Ismaili's are (supposedly?) on haqiqat.
Most definitly, I have had discussions with other muslims about things like the hijab. There is no reasoning with some people. Some are downright donkeys!
But are "we" on haqiqat just because we are born ...
by schatoor
Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:09 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: A non-Ismaili askes about certain passages from the old dua
Replies: 7
Views: 513537

A non-Ismaili askes about certain passages from the old dua

A non-Ismaili somehow got this link from somewhere; http://www.ismaili.net/Source/hbibi1.html

I would first of all like to ask who this document wrote. A lawyer? Was it approved my Mawlana Sultan Muhammad Shah?
Second; a part of the old khoja dua can be read from here;


Having said the above ...
by schatoor
Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:53 pm
Forum: Qasidas & Geets
Topic: DAM HAME DAM ALI ALI, by Rumi?
Replies: 15
Views: 51340

Thank you so much for all your replies. Really usefull info!
You can also enjoy this qassidah in a wonderful qawali form by Nusrath Fathe Ali Khan. If you have time I highly reccomend that you listen to it.
I would SOOOOO like to get a hold of that! Do you know how I can?
by schatoor
Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:41 am
Forum: Qasidas & Geets
Topic: DAM HAME DAM ALI ALI, by Rumi?
Replies: 15
Views: 51340

DAM HAME DAM ALI ALI, by Rumi?

Hi,

The qasida "dam hame dam Ali Ali" is atributted to Mawlana Rumi. That evidence is there that Rumi actually wrote this? The only place I can find this Qasida is on Ismaili sites. There is just not more information about this Qasida.
by schatoor
Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:47 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Six days of creation
Replies: 2
Views: 3591

Six days of creation

Allah says in the Quran that He created the world in six days. Can someone explain to me what these six days stand for in the Ismaili docterine?
I have heard that the six days stand for the six stages of spiritual evolution mankind went thought. There have come six great prophets (Adam, Nuh ...
by schatoor
Sat May 22, 2004 5:18 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Nassir Khushraw
Replies: 9
Views: 5712

salavtion will be yours if you passionatly and intellectually seek the truth of Allah.
by schatoor
Fri May 07, 2004 2:02 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: teaching of ismailism personally
Replies: 26
Views: 19228

There is no teachings of prayers nor religious or doctrinal elements. What is good in a system that FORBID teachers to teach Du'a and Dassond or the meaning of Imamat?

In my region, teachers have been fired for less.

Ya Ali, ... are you serious?! They are forbidding to teach these most ...
by schatoor
Wed May 05, 2004 4:11 am
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: teaching of ismailism personally
Replies: 26
Views: 19228

<t>In my opinion, the basic understanding of faith that childeren should have, has to come from parents. They should teach love for prophet Muhammad (saw) and his ahlul-bait (which includes mowlana Hazir Imam) . The meaning of the Dua' , ginans and understanding of the rites and rituals in jamat ...
by schatoor
Sun May 02, 2004 7:27 am
Forum: Inspiration
Topic: The most buitifull this I have ever read:
Replies: 0
Views: 1913

The most buitifull this I have ever read:

Not Christian or Jew or
Muslim, not Hindu,
Buddhist, Sufi, or Zen.
Not any religion

or cultural system. I am
not from the east
or the west, not
out of the ocean or up

from the ground, not
natural or ethereal, not
composed of elements at all.
I do not exist,

am not an entity in this
world or the ...
by schatoor
Fri Apr 30, 2004 3:12 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Is Quran compilation complete?
Replies: 798
Views: 427921

As pointed out before, the farman our Lord mowlana Hazir Imam is the Quran. As Nabi Muhammad (saw) said him self, the Quran is with Ali (as) and Ali (as) is with the Quran, and they wil not get sepperated until the Day of Judgment (see Ibn Hajar by al-Sawaiq al muhriqah, p.123, for example) . And ...
by schatoor
Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:47 pm
Forum: Doctrines
Topic: Farmans
Replies: 24
Views: 18496

Farmans on the net!!! No way, farmans are for Ismaili's ONLY. I would ask for a copy of a farman book at your local JK.