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thankz alot guys! i will go thru these topis first and then discuss if i have further queries

Well yes ofcourse everything that has a begining has an end. So that means k the end of the world is the qayamat for this world, my death is qayamat for me like Prophet Mohd said:

" jo mar gaya us ki qayamat barpa hogayi "

but then wht abt the hisab kitab thing?? will that happen after my death or ...

Yam!

I wanted your views on Qayamat! what do you think qayamat is? Also if anyone can tell the ismaili interpretation of the quranic ayats on qayamat. And has this topic discussed before on this forum? i searched the forum and couldnt find anything on this topic.

I'm personally very confused on ...

Human think before they talk!

Parrots only say what they are taught withouht thinking or reasoning.

MHI says in His Faramins to think on it, understand it and then follow it! this means that we are allowed to use our intellect in order to understand the faraman so that we may follow it more effectively! but we should not use our intellect in order to find reasons not to follow the farmans. Am I ...

A man was sleeping at night in his cabin when suddenly his room filled with light, and God appeared.
The lord told the man he had work for him to do, and showed him a large rock in front of his cabin. The Lord explained that the man was to push against the rock with all his might. So, this the man ...

kmaherali: "No physical rebirths as per Imam Sultan Muhammad Shah."

kmaherali can u plz show the farman??

and shamsb: "we have farmans of Imam Sultan Mohammed Shah saying there is rebirth"

shamsb can u also plz show the farman??

10x!

ShamsB: "i disagree..to me these are physical births..
as muslims we beleive in the law of Karma...most religions do...so to me these are physical rebirths...you have to remember pain and suffering are physical things..soul is not physical."

Hmm.. well yes we as muslims beleive in karma thats is ...

hmm.. so ur saying that 84 lakh are not physical rebirths well.. even i do agree with u in some manner and i also think it must be something to do with the spritual rebirth but than what does 21 lakh cycles in each jug mean how will u link ur interpretation of spritual cycle or spritual growth with ...

kmaherali:

"The way I understand it is that if you have done Baiyat of the Guide, the chance of salvation is 45/48, but you still have to work for the rest i.e. 3/48. It does not mean that if the Guide has accepted to intercede for you, you are automatically saved! You still have to follow him and ...

10x

Yam again!

In our ginans 4 khaans are mentioned that is:

1-Shitage (or Sitej): Growth by fission; multiplication of living cells, ameba, germ, bacteria, etc. In other words, creation from the earth, for example metal, minerals, mountains.
2-Jadage (or Jjrej): Growth from seed or twig such as ...

Yam!

in our ginans it is mentioned that each soul has to go through a cycle of 84 lakh, 21 lakh in each jug what does it mean?? what is the interpretation of 84 lakh?? are these in physical forms like first i was bacteria and then my soul enetred another body then finally i become a human! or are ...

yam!

we all have heard in various ginans that 5 crore attained salvation in the first yug 7 crore in second yug 9 crore in third yug and 12 crore in the last yug and countless in the last phase.

i was thinking from where did these figurse come from?? are these figures present in the hindu ...

Thanx for the appreciation star_munir and no need to apoligize kmaherali we all make mistakes and we all are here to learn by sharing our knowledge with each other :)

The following is the granth "momin chetamani" by syed imam shah in which he has stated the miracles of pir shams:<BR><BR>204. Pir Shams was from Pir Saladin's (check) lineage and was born in Tabrez (check) and he taught that same religion and dedicated his life.<BR><BR>Verses deleted.<BR ...

Yam!

I didn't say that these miracles didn't happen what i am saying is that just like the quran has a zahir and batin so do the ginans! am i not rite?

So just like the real teachings and essance of the quran lies in its esoteric meaning same goes for the ginan.

So what i am asking is let us give ...

Yam!

This is my first post ever here!

Mostly everyone has heard the miracles of Pir Shams like the one of Bahauddin Zakhria's horns, the bringing down of the sun, bringing the dead sone of king back to life etc. I was just wandering whether this is to be taken literally or there is some ...