Future Predictions..!!

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ashraf59
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Please watch above video from you tube
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ashraf59 wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 7:54 pm Key Predictions of Zahurat
1. Day of Zahurat: Thursday (Thawar Raat as per ginans)
2. Time: Evening, post 4:00 PM
3. Nakshatra: Rohini
4. Month (Hindu Calendar): Chaitra
5. Year: 2115 (based on a waez by Rai Abu Ali)
6. Name of Imam: Imam Kasam Shah (mentioned in Anant Akhado)
Let me repeat part of my previous post;
I think you are carried away by prediction made by Alwaiz Abu Ali. Let me quote; "He said that after 100 years the Imam of the future will be the king of the world. He will be in Islamabad Pakistan. Thursday will be the day at 3:00 pm when he will announce that he is the king of the world or Imam of the time (just analyze it) . Alwaiz Abu Ali also said that everything is mentioned in the Chogariya's that we recite every thursday in our Jamat Khana". Please note, the chougariya recited on thursday is, " BHAI TINI VEEREY JUUN UMEDUN AANSU PURUYUN- JE MON JE MON CHANDEYUN". In this chougariya there is no mention of zahurat only spiritual VIVAH OF IMAM with momin. Imam of Nizari Ismaili is ever present, Hindus are waiting for Zahurat of Naklanki!!!
Also, al Waez Abu Ali mentioned in one of his waez that DAET KALINGO IS COMMUNISM.
Is word communism used in Ginans? Great respect for Abu Ali Saheb, but what he said cann't be accepted 100%. what he said is his view, thinking, interpretation or prediction..
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Thanks
Besides Abu Ali’ s waez and that Chogadia you are mentioning there are several more ginans I will mention you with in couple of days.
If you have read my post carefully then it was pretty much related to Gadir e Khum event but I will surely provide more ginans soon.
After all it’s totally depends on individual understanding
So just wait I will surely put some ginans and Farmans if possible
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ashraf59 wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 7:35 pm
If you have read my post carefully then it was pretty much related to Gadir e Khum event but I will surely provide more ginans soon.
Noor e Ali is from very beginning and will shine till end of universe and beyond. According to you, if zahurat happened at Ghadir Khum then what still we need other zahurat in future? In Dua we say "IMAMINAL HADHIRIL MOUJUD", hence Imam is zahir, hazir, and moujud. In case, for example, if Imam disappears then you can say, there will be zahurat in future.
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ashraf59 wrote: Wed Jul 23, 2025 7:09 pm https://youtu.be/2Wb9E5YYJLM
First these podcasters are not declaring their names though blog is under copyright (may be scared)!!
The heading is "Ismaili Concept | 2115 Future Predictions from Ismaili Ginans: Imam Kasam Emergence & China’s Fall". There are many flaws in this podcast. Looks like they have adopted the topic from 'ismaili.net' and couple waezes of Abu Ali Saheb. In one of his waez he declared that Daet Kalingo is communism. How come, because he said so? In which Ginan the word communism is mentioned. Then year 2115!!! Every 20/30 years there comes change on world stage rapidly. For example, Internet, Social media, Social platefarms, AI, ORB and so on. Many natural disasters, many governmet toppled, many wars.....
Please ask AI and you will get many predictions and suggestions.
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Communism is one of the evil forces—referred to in Old Gujarati as daint and danav. Even in modern Gujarati and Hindi, these terms are still commonly used.

Of course, aside from Ismaili.net, there are many other sources that support and reference future predictions. You can find such references not only in Hindu bhajans and devotional lyrics, but also in the scriptures and beliefs of other religions. Many of them foresee someone appearing in the future to destroy the forces of evil—whether you call it Communism, daint, danav, shetan, or Dajjal.

I’ve seen some of your posts—some are very good, but not all…

Let’s leave this topic for now, and allow others to believe in what they choose to believe.
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ashraf59 wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 3:12 pm
You can find such references not only in Hindu bhajans and devotional lyrics, but also in the scriptures and beliefs of other religions. Many of them foresee someone appearing in the future to destroy the forces of evil—whether you call it Communism, daint, danav, shetan, or Dajjal.
Now some one has to go through hunderds of thousands of bhajans to find 2115 wars and destruction of planet earth, then some savior will come to protect. Evil forces are active from the beginning and believe me at that time there was no China or communism. There was a prediction about destruction of planet earth on Dec 12, 2012, what happened!!!
Let us agree to disagree on this topic as you wrote, thanks.
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In our ginanic literature, various names are used for the final Zahurat (spiritual and worldly manifestation), such as:
• Kayam (Qayyam) – the one who will establish justice.
• Naklank – a concept drawn from Hindu eschatology (Kalki Avatar).
• Kasam Shah – the promised one, often referring to the one whose coming is assured by a sacred vow.
• Also names like Shah Pir, Ali, Akhir-u-z-zaman, imam etc., depending on the context and time.

Now, to you a core question from a murid who asked me:-

*Do any ginans use the name “Mehdi” or “Mahadi” directly?
i am not referring to the Twelver 12th Imam and I don’t believe in ishnashari faith either.
This question has been asked by an Ismaili he wants to know what I have written here.
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ashraf59 wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2025 2:25 pm
*Do any ginans use the name “Mehdi” or “Mahadi” directly?
Jire bhaai kaadhi khaddang Khudaavind-j ghaaj karshe
pidd te Imaam Mehdi naam dharaay ...ho jire bhaai 39

http://heritage.ismaili.net/node/4059

Eji Have jug chhelo ne ramat chheli
bhaai saaheb no chhelun das mo avtaar;
jyaare Mehdi rup pragat thaayshe,
tyaare Surjaa raanni kaalingaa-ne maare 8

Eji Tyaare pahelo tarkaaro bhelshe,
nauv khand maanhe hoyshe ho ho kaar;
tyaan koi kene saathe dese naahi
tyaan Mehdi deshe maar 9

http://heritage.ismaili.net/node/3928

Jire bhaai ham van butiyaa
mero saaheb baagwaan,
chunn chunn mannak chapendi kaliyaann
aavego Imaam Mehdi maannego raliyaaji 2

http://heritage.ismaili.net/node/4094
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Thank you Kbhai you are very knowledgeable person I am seeing your posts in different topics and subjects.
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