Authority & Nur (light), of Imam in Quran & Farmans

[kmaherali]

But there is no mention of word Naklanki in Hindu scriptures be Gita or Puranas.

TRANN TRANN VED NA DHEE-AAVO MUNEEVARBHAAI
BY SAYYED IMAAM SHAH

trann trann ved na dhee-aavo muneevar bhaai
kaayare khovo purav janam nee kamaai jee.....................1

Do not follow the teachings of the three (previous) scriptures
(which are redundant), o brother believers. By being timid, why
do you lose the good earnings of the past lives (which have
enabled you to attain this exalted path)?

ejee athar ved bole e prabhu saachaa
fal chhe paakaa(n) pann deese chhe kaachaa(n)jee............20

The stable scripture (the Ginans) is spoken by the True Guide.
The fruits are indeed ripe (sweet in essence) but are perceived as raw (bitter outwardly).

http://heritage.ismaili.net/node/23179

[ashraf59]

In the following Hindu Puranas, you can find the words Nakalanki / Nishkalanka:
• Bhāgavata Purāṇa
• Vishnu Purāṇa
• Kalki Purāṇa
They use terms like “Niṣkalanka,” meaning:
spotless, stainless, free from impurity.

It is true that the word Nakalanki does not appear in the Gita, but different words are used for the word Nakalanki with same meaning.

What people often connect is Gita 4.7–4.8, where Krishna says “He incarnates to restore dharma.” This is a general principle of avatāra. Since this is Kali Yuga, many may consider Him as the Kalki avatar.

[swamidada786]

But there is no mention of word Naklanki in Hindu scriptures be Gita or Puranas.

TRANN TRANN VED NA DHEE-AAVO MUNEEVARBHAAI
BY SAYYED IMAAM SHAH

trann trann ved na dhee-aavo muneevar bhaai
kaayare khovo purav janam nee kamaai jee.....................1

Do not follow the teachings of the three (previous) scriptures
(which are redundant), o brother believers. By being timid, why
do you lose the good earnings of the past lives (which have
enabled you to attain this exalted path)?

ejee athar ved bole e prabhu saachaa
fal chhe paakaa(n) pann deese chhe kaachaa(n)jee............20

The stable scripture (the Ginans) is spoken by the True Guide.
The fruits are indeed ripe (sweet in essence) but are perceived as raw (bitter outwardly).

http://heritage.ismaili.net/node/23179

I read the above 2 parts of Ginan you quoted written by Syed Imam Shah BUT could not find the name Naklanki.

[swamidada786]

In the following Hindu Puranas, you can find the words Nakalanki / Nishkalanka:
• Bhāgavata Purāṇa
• Vishnu Purāṇa
• Kalki Purāṇa
They use terms like “Niṣkalanka,” meaning:
spotless, stainless, free from impurity.

It is true that the word Nakalanki does not appear in the Gita, but different words are used for the word Nakalanki with same meaning.

What people often connect is Gita 4.7–4.8, where Krishna says “He incarnates to restore dharma.” This is a general principle of avatāra. Since this is Kali Yuga, many may consider Him as the Kalki avatar.

You wrote,"It is true that the word Nakalanki does not appear in the Gita, but different words are used for the word Nakalanki with same meaning". Sir ji, A can not be called X, Y, OR Z. The main Hindu scripture is Gita.
One has to wait 432000 years to see N or K coming. TIYAAR SUDHI VEERA BAI WAPRAI JASHE. At present look at the destruction of planet earth, bloodshed, hunger, cruelity name it, 'Might is right'. Bhagwan batta mai tujhe dhundhu kahan.

[kmaherali]

I read the above 2 parts of Ginan you quoted written by Syed Imam Shah BUT could not find the name Naklanki.

The verses convey the message that you don't follow the scriptures of the past but follow the scripture of the present which as per our Tariqah are the Ginans and Farmans. The verses I mentioned doesn't mentioned Naklanki but other Ginans do such as:

NAR NAKALA(N)K KEREE VAAT KOIK JAANNE RE
BY SAYYED FATEHALEE

ejee nar nakla(n)k keree vaat koik jaanne re
jene satgur meeleeyaa saar sohiy peechhaanne re..............1

Very few people understand the concept of the pure and spotless
Master (Imaam). Only those who have attained the True Guide
have recognised Him in His essence.

ejee satgur sat karee jaann mahamad rupejee
aad niri(n)jan saam sadaay alee rupejee......................2

Know with conviction that the True Guide is in the form of Prophet Muhammed.
The Everliving Lord who is undescriptible and unknowable from the beginning,
is indeed in the form of Alee.

ejee shaah betthaa paachhame desh ke ajamee rupejee
shaah bole chhe faarsee venn se(n)tar dipejee................3

The Lord (Imaam) is seated in a western country (in relation to
Indian Subcontinent) called Iran. The Imaam speaks the Persian
language which is spoken in the Arabian Peninsula.

[ashraf59]

If we’re setting aside the Bhagavad Gita because there’s no naklank word found in it; then what about the Ismaili ginans, granths and the other three Purāṇas I mentioned earlier? Are those also being considered illegitimate, or as now providing solid evidence for the term Naklanki?

And if they’re being dismissed as well, what’s the reason—especially when they all point toward the same idea or figure? about the Nakalanki!
For many the ginans, granths and purans are a legitimate source for better understanding the own religions and reincarnation of Vishnu.

[swamidada786]

I read the above 2 parts of Ginan you quoted written by Syed Imam Shah BUT could not find the name Naklanki.

The verses convey the message that you don't follow the scriptures of the past but follow the scripture of the present which as per our Tariqah are the Ginans and Farmans. The verses I mentioned doesn't mentioned Naklanki but other Ginans do such as:

NAR NAKALA(N)K KEREE VAAT KOIK JAANNE RE
BY SAYYED FATEHALEE

ejee nar nakla(n)k keree vaat koik jaanne re
jene satgur meeleeyaa saar sohiy peechhaanne re..............1

Very few people understand the concept of the pure and spotless
Master (Imaam). Only those who have attained the True Guide
have recognised Him in His essence.

ejee satgur sat karee jaann mahamad rupejee
aad niri(n)jan saam sadaay alee rupejee......................2

Know with conviction that the True Guide is in the form of Prophet Muhammed.
The Everliving Lord who is undescriptible and unknowable from the beginning,
is indeed in the form of Alee.

ejee shaah betthaa paachhame desh ke ajamee rupejee
shaah bole chhe faarsee venn se(n)tar dipejee................3

The Lord (Imaam) is seated in a western country (in relation to
Indian Subcontinent) called Iran. The Imaam speaks the Persian
language which is spoken in the Arabian Peninsula.

The Preamble
(A) The Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims affirm the shahadah la ilaha illa-llah, Muhammadur rasulu-llah, the Tawhid therein and that the Holy Prophet Muhammad (s.a.s.) is the last and final Prophet of Allah. Islam, as revealed in the Holy Quran, is the final message of Allah to mankind, and is universal and eternal. The Holy Prophet (s.a.s.) through the divine revelation from Allah prescribed rules governing spiritual and temporal matters.

Quran comes first to follow, it is the final message of Allah mentioned by Hazar Imam; Ginans came later. Ginans were primarily convertion tools using Hindu terminoloy where Kalki became Naklanki.

[kmaherali]

The Preamble
(A) The Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims affirm the shahadah la ilaha illa-llah, Muhammadur rasulu-llah, the Tawhid therein and that the Holy Prophet Muhammad (s.a.s.) is the last and final Prophet of Allah. Islam, as revealed in the Holy Quran, is the final message of Allah to mankind, and is universal and eternal. The Holy Prophet (s.a.s.) through the divine revelation from Allah prescribed rules governing spiritual and temporal matters.

Quran comes first to follow, it is the final message of Allah mentioned by Hazar Imam; Ginans came later. Ginans were primarily convertion tools using Hindu terminoloy where Kalki became Naklanki.

Preamble is for everyone including non-Ismailis , Farmans on the other hand are meant for the Jamats.

"Many times I have recommended to my spiritual children that they should remember the Ginans, that they should understand the meaning of these Ginans and that they should carry these meanings in their hearts. It is most important that my spiritual children from wherever they may come should, through the ages and from generation to generation, hold to this tradition which is so special, so unique and so important to my jamat." Karachi, 16.12.1964

[swamidada786]

If we’re setting aside the Bhagavad Gita because there’s no naklank word found in it; then what about the Ismaili ginans, granths and the other three Purāṇas I mentioned earlier? Are those also being considered illegitimate, or as now providing solid evidence for the term Naklanki?

And if they’re being dismissed as well, what’s the reason—especially when they all point toward the same idea or figure? about the Nakalanki!
For many the ginans, granths and purans are a legitimate source for better understanding the own religions and reincarnation of Vishnu.

In Hindu dharma Gita is important as Quran in Islam. You admitted that there is no Naklanki word available in Gita; and I admit there is no word Naklanki used in Quran. In Puranas Naklanki is not used directly. In my previous post I gave an example that alphabet 'A' can not be pronounced as 'Z'. Kalki ia an Avtar as well Naklanki is also an Avtar. One is yet to come, other is already here. Mission of both Avtars is same to defeat demons, restore peace, show the righteousness, make the planet paradise. Naklanki is around 1400 years, but we do not see peace on planet earth.
We pray dunya maan ASHANTI duur kari SHANTI paida kar; WHERE IS DEVI SHANTI?????

[swamidada786]

The Preamble
(A) The Shia Imami Ismaili Muslims affirm the shahadah la ilaha illa-llah, Muhammadur rasulu-llah, the Tawhid therein and that the Holy Prophet Muhammad (s.a.s.) is the last and final Prophet of Allah. Islam, as revealed in the Holy Quran, is the final message of Allah to mankind, and is universal and eternal. The Holy Prophet (s.a.s.) through the divine revelation from Allah prescribed rules governing spiritual and temporal matters.

Quran comes first to follow, it is the final message of Allah mentioned by Hazar Imam; Ginans came later. Ginans were primarily convertion tools using Hindu terminoloy where Kalki became Naklanki.

Preamble is for everyone including non-Ismailis , Farmans on the other hand are meant for the Jamats.

"Many times I have recommended to my spiritual children that they should remember the Ginans, that they should understand the meaning of these Ginans and that they should carry these meanings in their hearts. It is most important that my spiritual children from wherever they may come should, through the ages and from generation to generation, hold to this tradition which is so special, so unique and so important to my jamat." Karachi, 16.12.1964

For Ismailis Preamble is a Farman, and in 1986 was explained to all jamaits to follow.
The Farman you quoted was made in 1964, but in 1969 Ginan conference 'GINANS WERE CATEGORIZED' in a system of classification. Only selected Ginans were prescibed to recite in JKs with permission of Imam, others were banned to recite in JKs.
It is in same way as MSMS in 1945 conference was angry to change Ali Allah but in 1950 he changed it to ALIULLAH.

[kmaherali]

For Ismailis Preamble is a Farman, and in 1986 was explained to all jamaits to follow.
The Farman you quoted was made in 1964, but in 1969 Ginan conference 'GINANS WERE CATEGORIZED' in a system of classification. Only selected Ginans were prescibed to recite in JKs with permission of Imam, others were banned to recite in JKs.
It is in same way as MSMS in 1945 conference was angry to change Ali Allah but in 1950 he changed it to ALIULLAH.

In an esoteric tradition such as ours, there are always layers of meaning and understanding. There are zaheri aspects and the batini aspects. The Preamble represents the former whereas the Farmans /Ginans/Qasidas represent the latter.

[ashraf59]

. Naklanki is around 1400 years, but we do not see peace on planet earth.
We pray dunya maan ASHANTI duur kari SHANTI paida kar; WHERE IS DEVI SHANTI?????

Every event—whether good or bad—seems to unfold only when its time has truly arrived. For example, during the era of the Mahabharata, there were no missiles or fighter jets. Those technologies exist today because this is the age meant for them. In that earlier time, the weapons described were considered advanced for that era, but today’s technologies had not yet reached their destined moment.

This idea of timing becomes even more interesting when we look at spiritual history. Before the eighth avatar, Krishna, there were already seven avatars of Vishnu. Yet, during the times of those earlier avatars, the Mahabharata war did not occur. Not because circumstances were lacking—but because the time for that war had not yet arrived. That great conflict was destined to happen specifically during the time of Krishna, when conditions—moral, social, and cosmic—had aligned.

This makes me wonder: does history unfold by readiness rather than intention?
If so, then perhaps even major conflicts and transformations happen only when time itself allows them.

Many traditions also speak about a future age of harmony. The Puranas and the Ginans suggest that true peace on Earth will come—just not yet. Maybe, like past events, the time for it has not fully matured.

I’d also like to clarify something important: the word Naklanki appears in Hindu bhajans written by Hindu saints as well, not only in compositions by Ismaili pirs. This shared idea across traditions points toward a common hope and vision.

So the question I leave here is:
Are we waiting for peace to arrive with time, or is time waiting for humanity to be ready?
Off course waiting right time to come.

[kmaherali]

So the question I leave here is:
Are we waiting for peace to arrive with time, or is time waiting for humanity to be ready?
Off course waiting right time to come.

Ultimately peace and success is an internal matter. It does not depend on external circumstances. An elevated soul can be peaceful under any circumstances.

ejee neesee jal hoveto kuchh kaar na aave
peerune farmaayaa ba(n)daa sohee kamaave.. so allaah.........2

The one who is as pure as clean water will never be effected by time. It is by following the Farmans of the Imam that one achieves that state.

http://heritage.ismaili.net/node/22916

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abdhu ghatt maa(n)he reedh seedh hay, ane ghatt maa(n)he anhad chaalaa;
ghatt maa(n)he bhaag lagaayaa baabu, ghattmaa(n)he see(n)chann
haaraa abdhu....................................................................................................................19

O slave! the real prosperity and success is in the heart,
and there are unlimited movements in the heart. In the heart is the garden of fortune,
brother, and in the heart is the waterer(of mercy).

abdhu ghattmaa(n)he navkha(n)d peerodhamee, ane ghattmaa(n)he hay kevalaasaa;
ghattmaa(n)he saat samuddhra kaa vaasaa, gur beenaa jaay peeyaasaa abdhu.........................20

kevalaas - one of the peaks of the Himalayas

O slave! in the heart is the expanse of the earth with nine continents, and in the heart
is one of the peaks of the Himalays(the entire creation encompassing the horizontal and
vertical limits is in the heart). The heart is the place of the seven seas(of mercy),
but without the Guide one goes thirsty(the Guide opens the doors to the seven oceans(heavens)).

http://heritage.ismaili.net/node/22813

[swamidada786]

For Ismailis Preamble is a Farman, and in 1986 was explained to all jamaits to follow.
The Farman you quoted was made in 1964, but in 1969 Ginan conference 'GINANS WERE CATEGORIZED' in a system of classification. Only selected Ginans were prescibed to recite in JKs with permission of Imam, others were banned to recite in JKs.
It is in same way as MSMS in 1945 conference was angry to change Ali Allah but in 1950 he changed it to ALIULLAH.

In an esoteric tradition such as ours, there are always layers of meaning and understanding. There are zaheri aspects and the batini aspects. The Preamble represents the former whereas the Farmans /Ginans/Qasidas represent the latter.

Batin is because of zahir. No zahir no batin. layers of meaning create confusion in mostly people. So far we do not have batini version of Preamble.

Farman: The values and principles of our Tariqah come from the Quran, from the teaching of Prophet Muhammad, and the Farmans of your Imam. (Paris July 13, 2025)

Ginan: PAHLI MANO SHARIYAT, TARIQAT AUR HAQIQAT, M'ARIFAT KO MON MEIN MAAR

Qasida; SHAH E SHARIYATUM TU HI......

[kmaherali]

Batin is because of zahir. No zahir no batin. layers of meaning create confusion in mostly people. So far we do not have batini version of Preamble.

The layers of meaning is the essence of an esoteric tradition. No one is denying that the Preamble is the zaher aspect. The batin of the Pre amble can be found easily in the Farmans, Ginans and Qasidas. I am not denying the zaher but we must not confine ourselves to the Zaher only, we must progress in understanding.

[swamidada786]

. Naklanki is around 1400 years, but we do not see peace on planet earth.
We pray dunya maan ASHANTI duur kari SHANTI paida kar; WHERE IS DEVI SHANTI?????

Every event—whether good or bad—seems to unfold only when its time has truly arrived. For example, during the era of the Mahabharata, there were no missiles or fighter jets. Those technologies exist today because this is the age meant for them. In that earlier time, the weapons described were considered advanced for that era, but today’s technologies had not yet reached their destined moment.

This idea of timing becomes even more interesting when we look at spiritual history. Before the eighth avatar, Krishna, there were already seven avatars of Vishnu. Yet, during the times of those earlier avatars, the Mahabharata war did not occur. Not because circumstances were lacking—but because the time for that war had not yet arrived. That great conflict was destined to happen specifically during the time of Krishna, when conditions—moral, social, and cosmic—had aligned.

This makes me wonder: does history unfold by readiness rather than intention?
If so, then perhaps even major conflicts and transformations happen only when time itself allows them.

Many traditions also speak about a future age of harmony. The Puranas and the Ginans suggest that true peace on Earth will come—just not yet. Maybe, like past events, the time for it has not fully matured.

I’d also like to clarify something important: the word Naklanki appears in Hindu bhajans written by Hindu saints as well, not only in compositions by Ismaili pirs. This shared idea across traditions points toward a common hope and vision.

So the question I leave here is:
Are we waiting for peace to arrive with time, or is time waiting for humanity to be ready?
Off course waiting right time to come.

The mission of Avtars was to restore peace and pave way for righteousness and should not become a party in fight or war. But Krishna sided with Arjun army. Around million persons on both sides were killed according to mythology. The job of Krishana was to stop the war and not to became a party!!!
Weapons are killers dose not matter old technology or modern technology. You wrote,"This idea of timing becomes even more interesting when we look at spiritual history. Before the eighth avatar, Krishna, there were already seven avatars of Vishnu. Yet, during the times of those earlier avatars, the Mahabharata war did not occur. Not because circumstances were lacking—but because the time for that war had not yet arrived". Does this make sense?
Previous Avtars before Krishna were fighting with demons under sea because they abducted beauties, they did not have time to teach and preach spiritualism.

[swamidada786]

. Naklanki is around 1400 years, but we do not see peace on planet earth.
We pray dunya maan ASHANTI duur kari SHANTI paida kar; WHERE IS DEVI SHANTI?????

Many traditions also speak about a future age of harmony. The Puranas and the Ginans suggest that true peace on Earth will come—just not yet. Maybe, like past events, the time for it has not fully matured.

I’d also like to clarify something important: the word Naklanki appears in Hindu bhajans written by Hindu saints as well, not only in compositions by Ismaili pirs. This shared idea across traditions points toward a common hope and vision.

If time for peace has not fully matured as you wrote, then why Kalki/Naklanki are here on planet earth! Just to watch the events and not to stop the wars.

You wrote,"the word Naklanki appears in Hindu bhajans written by saints as well....". Please mention few such bhajans where the word N aklanki is used in such bhajans.

[swamidada786]

Batin is because of zahir. No zahir no batin. layers of meaning create confusion in mostly people. So far we do not have batini version of Preamble.

The layers of meaning is the essence of an esoteric tradition. No one is denying that the Preamble is the zaher aspect. The batin of the Pre amble can be found easily in the Farmans, Ginans and Qasidas. I am not denying the zaher but we must not confine ourselves to the Zaher only, we must progress in understanding.

But who will give understanding of batin? It is the prerogative of Imam of the time to give us such Ta'lim of batini aspects. Yet there is no batini explanation of Preamble from Imam's side. If this is left to missionaries to explain batin, there will be diffent views from them and there will be chaos.

[kmaherali]

But who will give understanding of batin? It is the prerogative of Imam of the time to give us such Ta'lim of batini aspects. Yet there is no batini explanation of Preamble from Imam's side. If this is left to missionaries to explain batin, there will be diffent views from them and there will be chaos.

The Batini interpretation is a personal interpretation. It cannot be uniform. Each murid makes his / her intepretation according to his/her capacity. It can of course be guided by Farmans/Ginans/Qasidas. The Preamble is a recent matter due to the need to explain our Tariqah to a wider audience beyond the Jamat. Before the Preamble our Jamats were guided by the Farmans/ Ginans /Qasidas and there was never any chaos!

[kmaherali]

If time for peace has not fully matured as you wrote, then why Kalki/Naklanki are here on planet earth! Just to watch the events and not to stop the wars.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, attainment of peace is an internal matter and is independent of external conditions. The role of the Naklanki avtaars is to guide and protect the murids through the different worldly conditions. Yes there are wars and there will be wars and other disasters which are aspects of the evolution of life. Through overcoming these challenges individuals and societies learn and grow albeit through hard ways.

Mowlana Sultan Muhammad Shah said in his Farman:

The Imams never try to prevent the destined and natural calamities that befall upon an individual. If the Imam removed these calamities then there would be no distinction between this world and the Hereafter and this world would be Paradise. You should not be saddened by worldly suffering, in fact, you should be happy about it.

You should be happy with worldly suffering because such suffering is washing away your sins and the soul gains freedom and receives salvation. (Dar es Salaam, July 13, 1945)

More discussion on this at: Pain, Suffering and Calamities viewtopic.php?t=1427

[ashraf59]

. You wrote,"the word Naklanki appears in Hindu bhajans written by saints as well.

Sure let me collect it and I will post soon.

[ashraf59]

To Swamidada,
I am collecting bhajans but I can send you a article written by a well known scholar
Dr. Balwant Jani, a PhD holder on medieval Ginans and hymns, writes that he has identified more than 300 bhajans in which Hindu bhajans contain words such as Nakalank, Dasmo Avatār, Sayebo āvshe, Pirshāh, Pachham Desh, etc., which are ginānic terms. He also lists 15 bhajans, written by Hindu saints, for quick reference.

If you can read Gujarati, I can send the article written by him on Nakalank.

Dr. Jani is a well-known figure at the IIS in London, and he has written on Ismaili Ginans. Some of his articles are available on the IIS website.

[swamidada786]

But who will give understanding of batin? It is the prerogative of Imam of the time to give us such Ta'lim of batini aspects. Yet there is no batini explanation of Preamble from Imam's side. If this is left to missionaries to explain batin, there will be diffent views from them and there will be chaos.

The Batini interpretation is a personal interpretation. It cannot be uniform. Each murid makes his / her intepretation according to his/her capacity. It can of course be guided by Farmans/Ginans/Qasidas. The Preamble is a recent matter due to the need to explain our Tariqah to a wider audience beyond the Jamat. Before the Preamble our Jamats were guided by the Farmans/ Ginans /Qasidas and there was never any chaos!

If every person becomes batitni scholar and start interprating in his/her own way influened by other isms definitely there should be chaos. Each person will start imposing his/her batiniyat on others, that's why in my previous post I wrote it is the prerogative of Imam to explain batiniyat.

Before Preamble there were 4/5 different Tariqas practiced in our jamaits in different countries. For example in Central Asia they were following Nasir Khusraw teachings, in China Sunni Tariqa, in subcontinent and African countries Sat punthi Tariqa, Afghanistan mixed Nasir Khusraw and Sunni Tariqa, Syria Alvi Tariqa; hence Imam gave one Tariqa in the form of Preamble, now we are ONE JAMAIT in Ismaili Tariqa.

[swamidada786]

To Swamidada,
I am collecting bhajans but I can send you a article written by a well known scholar
Dr. Balwant Jani, a PhD holder on medieval Ginans and hymns, writes that he has identified more than 300 bhajans in which Hindu bhajans contain words such as Nakalank, Dasmo Avatār, Sayebo āvshe, Pirshāh, Pachham Desh, etc., which are ginānic terms. He also lists 15 bhajans, written by Hindu saints, for quick reference.

If you can read Gujarati, I can send the article written by him on Nakalank.

Dr. Jani is a well-known figure at the IIS in London, and he has written on Ismaili Ginans. Some of his articles are available on the IIS website.

Yes I do know Gujrati and Khojki. Please post that article on ismaili.net for benefit of all readers. Please quote bhajans also.
Do you believe Ginans are bhajans?

[kmaherali]

If every person becomes batitni scholar and start interprating in his/her own way influened by other isms definitely there should be chaos. Each person will start imposing his/her batiniyat on others, that's why in my previous post I wrote it is the prerogative of Imam to explain batiniyat.

Shah Karim has indicated to us that ours is a personal tradition, everyone who interprets the faith according to his understanding keeps it to himself and does not broadcast it to create chaos. If this person feels the need to share his insights he will quote Farmans/Ginans/ Qasidas as authoritative basis of his interpretation. Hence no chaos is possible!

Before Preamble there were 4/5 different Tariqas practiced in our jamaits in different countries. For example in Central Asia they were following Nasir Khusraw teachings, in China Sunni Tariqa, in subcontinent and African countries Sat punthi Tariqa, Afghanistan mixed Nasir Khusraw and Sunni Tariqa, Syria Alvi Tariqa; hence Imam gave one Tariqa in the form of Preamble, now we are ONE JAMAIT in Ismaili Tariqa.

There is strength in diversity. Our Tariqah becomes richer with insights from each part of our Jamat. Mowlana Shah Karim said:
So what I am saying to my Jamat today is that, as years go by, in the years ahead, Insha-Allah, we will learn a great deal more about spiritual children from parts of the world with which we have had little or no contact, not only for decades but for centuries. And as they come forward, they will bring to us their traditions, their literature, their affection, their songs, their dress, their language, their practice, and this is what is so unique in our tariqah. The tariqah has evolved in different parts of the world, in different languages, in different societies; and whereas sometimes there is a sense in the Ummah and outside that diversity is a weakness, I assure you diversity is strength. It is strength. The more a tariqah such as ours benefits from the creativity, the wisdom, the knowledge of people from more and more parts of the world, the stronger is the tariqah, the greater are its resources, and this is a fundamental point to keep in mind. So if you find that in the decades ahead, I will be concerned for the future of the Jamat in countries such as Afghanistan, remember that it is because every time these contacts are established, its strengthens our Jamat; that is one of the principal concerns everyday of the Imam of the time."( NAIROBI, KENYA SUNDAY, 11TH DECEMBER, 1988)

[ashraf59]

Do you believe Ginans are bhajans?

Good question! To be honest with you, I have studied both deeply, and many Hindu scholars believe that ginans are taken from bhajans, with some words changed and Islamic names inserted.

I found one ginan written by Pir Shams about Sati Emna Bai—the same ginan I later found and heard as a Hindu bhajan.

You will find some content in bhajans that we also find in ginans, so it’s hard to tell whether our ginans are taken from bhajans or whether bhajans were written based on ginans.

[kmaherali]

Do you believe Ginans are bhajans?

Good question! To be honest with you, I have studied both deeply, and many Hindu scholars believe that ginans are taken from bhajans, with some words changed and Islamic names inserted.

I found one ginan written by Pir Shams about Sati Emna Bai—the same ginan I later found and heard as a Hindu bhajan.

You will find some content in bhajans that we also find in ginans, so it’s hard to tell whether our ginans are taken from bhajans or whether bhajans were written based on ginans.

Ginans are perceived as a commentary on the Qur’an. In his pronouncement, Imam Sultan Muhammad Shah guided the community in this issue: ‘In the ginans which Pir Sadardin has composed for you, he has explained the gist of the Qur’an in the language of Hindustan.’ (Asani, Ecstasy and Enlightenment p 30).

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I found many Gujarati and Hindi Bhajans in which the word‘NAKALANK’ has been used below are some Bhajans :-
BK 651 Nakalanki Bhajan sangrah
નકલંક નેજાધારી (નિષ્કલંક ભગવાન) ના ભજનોમાં પ્રભુની મહિમા, કળિયુગમાં ઉદ્ધાર અને ભક્તિનો મહિમા વર્ણવવામાં આવ્યો છે. એક લોકપ્રિય ભજન "નાથ નકલંક નેજાધારી" ના શબ્દો નીચે મુજબ છે:
ભજન:
1, નાથ નકલંક નેજાધારી
તમને વિનવું છું વારંવારી,
નાથ તમારી ગતિ ન્યારી,
નાથ નકલંક નેજાધારી,
અમને નવ જાતા વિસારી..... ટેક
—————————————2, નકલંક નામ તણી બલિહારી, ભાવે ભજન કરો નરનારી...
પ્રથમ યુગમાં પ્રહલાદ રાજા સિધ્યા,
સંગે એને રત્નાવલી એહ રાણી, નકલંક નામ...
બીજા યુગમાં હરિશ્ચંદ્ર રાજા સિધ્યા,
સંગે એને તારાંદે પટરાણી, નકલંક નામ...
ત્રીજા યુગમાં યુધિષ્ઠિર રાજા સિધ્યા,
સંગે એને દ્રૌપદી મહારાણી, નકલંક નામ...
ચોથા યુગમાં શેઠ સગાળશા સિધ્યા,
સંગે એને ચંગાવતી એહ રાણી, નકલંક નામ...
શીલદાસ વચન ગુરુજીના સાચા,
કરવી છે ભક્તિ ને પાંદડા છે કાચા, નકલંક નામ...
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3, અચ્છે શ'ખો હણ્યો, કચ્છે ડિય્ક સ'હાયો!; વારાહે હબિયો! મોર. ન્રસિ'હ હિરણાક'સ માયે. વાલેન ચાપ્યો અળી, ઝૂરે કર સહસ્ો કાપ્યો: રામે દશાનન હણ્યો કુખ્એે ક'સ ઉથાપ્યો, બયે દયોધન હષ્યો, (નકલ'ક અલી અલબેલો; પ્રગટ રૂપ સુલતાન પર વરતેજ થયો છે ધેલડો,)
પરવરી રહેલા કળીકાળમાં ઇવરના (દશમ નકલ'ક અવતારનુ* )ભજન એજ ભક્તોનું કર્તવ્ય છે
ક્ષાન ધ્યાન યોગ તપ શયમ નિયમ સમાધિ સાધના એ સનાતન ક્રિયા ધર્મ ગત ચુગામાં ખોક્ષદ્ાયી મનાયા છે ત્યારે છેલા કળિયુગમાં એ બધી સાધના કર્તા ભક્તિ શ્રેષ્ટ મનાઇ છે.
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દયા ડરીને દઃખડા યળો નકલંક
નાથ,
ભવ સાગરમાં અડતો રખી ઝાલો હાથ.
સને તારો અલી છે ભર્સો ભારોરે, ડરસો સ્હાચ ભવની માંય લેશો મુજને તારીરે. નકલંક, સાખો.
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નકલંક કલ'ક વગરનો દેખો અી તણ અવતાર,
કળીચુગમાં છે કહચાણ કર્તા દુનિયાનો દાતાર, ધન્ય, ધમ આઓધારણ મુજને ઉગારી તારી પાર ઉતાર,
જય જય નકલંક હરી હીરાના સ્વામી સરજણહાર* ધત્ય,
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નકલંક નમન કશે દસમું દરસત છે. મગ્ન મનમાં હશો તો પ્રેમથી પરશન છે; ભજન કરો સજન મારા એ ખદાનુ' નુર છે) છુપાવ્યો એ છુપતો નથી હાજરા હજર છે. અરૂષમાંથી રૂપ ધાશુ ભુપનો એ ભુપ છે, વેદ વાણી વરી રહા તેજન' સ્વરૂપ છે: ભક્તનો ભગવાન છે (ને) ડાળીગાનો ડાળ છે, પત્નીઓનો પતિ પ્યારો માવડીનો ખાળ છે. ભક્ત તણા કલ'ક કાપી નકલ'ક ડહેવાય છે, ફા ખધાં પુરાં કરી તેજમાં સમાય છે; “હાથ જોડી હીરો ડહે અલી મહારો ખાય છે, જ્ઞાન ધ્યાન ગાતી ગુણુ ગાવિ'દના ગાય
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ભાઇ નકલંક ગુરૂને નીરખો તમે ગરમ કરીને પરખ) ગમા અવસરે છે હરી ભજ્યાનો કોઇ મનના કમસો ભગ, સત ચરનો કરી લ્યો સંગ એતો જ્યાં જાઇએ ત્યા સરખો. ભાઇ# ધણા રીવસ ગાથા ખાતાં હરી આવ્યા છે હાથ, એતો ત્રિશુવનનો નાથ એને જોઇ જોઇ હઇએઅ હરખા. ભાઇ રૂદીયામો રટણુ કરી કરીને ધ્યાત ધણીનુ' ધરજા,
સત્યના શબ્દે સમરજો આ હેહી માહે દેદાર રખો, ભાઇ 1 ગગન મ'ડળના એખ માંહી ઝળોમળ ઝળકે જ્યોતી, 7 ત્યાં ઝરમર વરસે માતી એને નરતે સુરતે નોરખો, ભાઇ,
હાથ જોડીને હીરો ડહે છે નકલંક કને શિષ નામી, રાખો સુરતી વ્રવેણી સામી પછી ચાલુ થાશે ચરખા,
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ભજન (૧) પુનમ પ્રગટારે હા સુજન.એ રાગ. જેને નકલંક નામનોરે ર'ગ લાગ્યો તેને જન્મ મરણષુ ભય ભાગ્યો ડેક, જાડી આચારે સો જાણો જોઇહ્પો વેદ પુસ્તક પુરાણો. જેને નકલંક
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ભજન (૧૧) રાગ ગરખી.
ભાવે ભક્તિ કરો નકલંક નામનીરે, જેણે આાપ્યો મનુષ્યા અવતાર;
્યવસર ફરી આવો નહીં મળે રે એ ટેક,
કુડા કૅખ છોડી રીયો મનથીરે, .ડરવો નહિ કેષઇ પર્‌ ખાર અવસર, ભાંક્તને આધીન છે ભુદફોરે, ધણા દયાળુ એ છે દાતાર. અવસર, જીવે! કુટુ'મ કબીલો ને દીકરારે; તેને જાતાં નહીં લાગે વાર. અવસરે, ડર ભક્તિનો ભવદ્‌ખ ભાગસેરે નહીંતો ખાવાનો યમનો મારે, સ્યવસર, ભાયો નીતિનો મારગ ન્યાળતારે, નથી ખોડખાંપણ લગાર, અવસર, થશે ધાય ધણીના મનન રે, કરો ઉપાય આપણ જો હજાર. અવસર, ઉતમ સુતની અરજ સાંભળીરે, કરો વ્રિભાનો અલી
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https://wiki.ekatrafoundation.org/wiki/ ... બળવંત_જાની

[kmaherali]

I found many Gujarati and Hindi Bhajans in which the word‘NAKALANK’ has been used below are some Bhajans :-
BK 651 Nakalanki Bhajan sangrah
નકલંક નેજાધારી (નિષ્કલંક ભગવાન) ના ભજનોમાં પ્રભુની મહિમા, કળિયુગમાં ઉદ્ધાર અને ભક્તિનો મહિમા વર્ણવવામાં આવ્યો છે. એક લોકપ્રિય ભજન "નાથ નકલંક નેજાધારી" ના શબ્દો નીચે મુજબ છે:
ભજન:
1, નાથ નકલંક નેજાધારી
તમને વિનવું છું વારંવારી,
નાથ તમારી ગતિ ન્યારી,
નાથ નકલંક નેજાધારી,
અમને નવ જાતા વિસારી..... ટેક
—————————————2, નકલંક નામ તણી બલિહારી, ભાવે ભજન કરો નરનારી...
પ્રથમ યુગમાં પ્રહલાદ રાજા સિધ્યા,
સંગે એને રત્નાવલી એહ રાણી, નકલંક નામ...
બીજા યુગમાં હરિશ્ચંદ્ર રાજા સિધ્યા,
સંગે એને તારાંદે પટરાણી, નકલંક નામ...
ત્રીજા યુગમાં યુધિષ્ઠિર રાજા સિધ્યા,
સંગે એને દ્રૌપદી મહારાણી, નકલંક નામ...
ચોથા યુગમાં શેઠ સગાળશા સિધ્યા,
સંગે એને ચંગાવતી એહ રાણી, નકલંક નામ...
શીલદાસ વચન ગુરુજીના સાચા,
કરવી છે ભક્તિ ને પાંદડા છે કાચા, નકલંક નામ...
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3, અચ્છે શ'ખો હણ્યો, કચ્છે ડિય્ક સ'હાયો!; વારાહે હબિયો! મોર. ન્રસિ'હ હિરણાક'સ માયે. વાલેન ચાપ્યો અળી, ઝૂરે કર સહસ્ો કાપ્યો: રામે દશાનન હણ્યો કુખ્એે ક'સ ઉથાપ્યો, બયે દયોધન હષ્યો, (નકલ'ક અલી અલબેલો; પ્રગટ રૂપ સુલતાન પર વરતેજ થયો છે ધેલડો,)
પરવરી રહેલા કળીકાળમાં ઇવરના (દશમ નકલ'ક અવતારનુ* )ભજન એજ ભક્તોનું કર્તવ્ય છે
ક્ષાન ધ્યાન યોગ તપ શયમ નિયમ સમાધિ સાધના એ સનાતન ક્રિયા ધર્મ ગત ચુગામાં ખોક્ષદ્ાયી મનાયા છે ત્યારે છેલા કળિયુગમાં એ બધી સાધના કર્તા ભક્તિ શ્રેષ્ટ મનાઇ છે.
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દયા ડરીને દઃખડા યળો નકલંક
નાથ,
ભવ સાગરમાં અડતો રખી ઝાલો હાથ.
સને તારો અલી છે ભર્સો ભારોરે, ડરસો સ્હાચ ભવની માંય લેશો મુજને તારીરે. નકલંક, સાખો.
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નકલંક કલ'ક વગરનો દેખો અી તણ અવતાર,
કળીચુગમાં છે કહચાણ કર્તા દુનિયાનો દાતાર, ધન્ય, ધમ આઓધારણ મુજને ઉગારી તારી પાર ઉતાર,
જય જય નકલંક હરી હીરાના સ્વામી સરજણહાર* ધત્ય,
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નકલંક નમન કશે દસમું દરસત છે. મગ્ન મનમાં હશો તો પ્રેમથી પરશન છે; ભજન કરો સજન મારા એ ખદાનુ' નુર છે) છુપાવ્યો એ છુપતો નથી હાજરા હજર છે. અરૂષમાંથી રૂપ ધાશુ ભુપનો એ ભુપ છે, વેદ વાણી વરી રહા તેજન' સ્વરૂપ છે: ભક્તનો ભગવાન છે (ને) ડાળીગાનો ડાળ છે, પત્નીઓનો પતિ પ્યારો માવડીનો ખાળ છે. ભક્ત તણા કલ'ક કાપી નકલ'ક ડહેવાય છે, ફા ખધાં પુરાં કરી તેજમાં સમાય છે; “હાથ જોડી હીરો ડહે અલી મહારો ખાય છે, જ્ઞાન ધ્યાન ગાતી ગુણુ ગાવિ'દના ગાય
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ભાઇ નકલંક ગુરૂને નીરખો તમે ગરમ કરીને પરખ) ગમા અવસરે છે હરી ભજ્યાનો કોઇ મનના કમસો ભગ, સત ચરનો કરી લ્યો સંગ એતો જ્યાં જાઇએ ત્યા સરખો. ભાઇ# ધણા રીવસ ગાથા ખાતાં હરી આવ્યા છે હાથ, એતો ત્રિશુવનનો નાથ એને જોઇ જોઇ હઇએઅ હરખા. ભાઇ રૂદીયામો રટણુ કરી કરીને ધ્યાત ધણીનુ' ધરજા,
સત્યના શબ્દે સમરજો આ હેહી માહે દેદાર રખો, ભાઇ 1 ગગન મ'ડળના એખ માંહી ઝળોમળ ઝળકે જ્યોતી, 7 ત્યાં ઝરમર વરસે માતી એને નરતે સુરતે નોરખો, ભાઇ,
હાથ જોડીને હીરો ડહે છે નકલંક કને શિષ નામી, રાખો સુરતી વ્રવેણી સામી પછી ચાલુ થાશે ચરખા,
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ભજન (૧) પુનમ પ્રગટારે હા સુજન.એ રાગ. જેને નકલંક નામનોરે ર'ગ લાગ્યો તેને જન્મ મરણષુ ભય ભાગ્યો ડેક, જાડી આચારે સો જાણો જોઇહ્પો વેદ પુસ્તક પુરાણો. જેને નકલંક
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ભજન (૧૧) રાગ ગરખી.
ભાવે ભક્તિ કરો નકલંક નામનીરે, જેણે આાપ્યો મનુષ્યા અવતાર;
્યવસર ફરી આવો નહીં મળે રે એ ટેક,
કુડા કૅખ છોડી રીયો મનથીરે, .ડરવો નહિ કેષઇ પર્‌ ખાર અવસર, ભાંક્તને આધીન છે ભુદફોરે, ધણા દયાળુ એ છે દાતાર. અવસર, જીવે! કુટુ'મ કબીલો ને દીકરારે; તેને જાતાં નહીં લાગે વાર. અવસરે, ડર ભક્તિનો ભવદ્‌ખ ભાગસેરે નહીંતો ખાવાનો યમનો મારે, સ્યવસર, ભાયો નીતિનો મારગ ન્યાળતારે, નથી ખોડખાંપણ લગાર, અવસર, થશે ધાય ધણીના મનન રે, કરો ઉપાય આપણ જો હજાર. અવસર, ઉતમ સુતની અરજ સાંભળીરે, કરો વ્રિભાનો અલી
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Google Translation

I found many Gujarati and Hindi Bhajans in which the word'NAKALANK' has been used below are some Bhajans :-
BK 651 Nakalanki Bhajan sangrah

The bhajans of Nakalank Nejadhari (Nishkalanka Bhagwan) describe the glory of the Lord, salvation in Kali Yuga and the glory of devotion. The words of a popular hymn "Nath Naklank Nejadhari" are as follows:
Hymn:
1, Nath Naklank Nejadhari
I beg you again and again,
Nath Your speed is fair,
Nath Naklank Nejadhari,
We forget the nine races..... Take
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Naklank Name is the sacrificer, sing the hymn with love, O men...
In the first age, Prahlad King Sidhya,
With him Ratnavali is the queen, Naklank Name... In
the second age, Harishchandra King Sidhya,
With him Tarande Patrani, Naklank Name...
In the third age, Yudhishthira King Sidhya,
With him Draupadi Maharani, Naklank Name...
In the fourth age, Seth Sagalsha Sidhya,
With him Changavati is the queen, Naklank Name...
Shildas The words of Guruji are true,
Karvi is devotion and the leaves are raw, Naklank Name...
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3, Good The shakho was killed, the kutchhe diyak was saved!; Varahe habio! Peacock. Narasi'h Hiranaka's mother. The tail was cut off by the tail, the force of the tax was cut off: Rama killed the dashanan, the kukh'e kas was raised, the dayodhan was killed, (Nakal'k Ali was killed; the manifest form has become glorious on the sultan,)
In the coming Kaliyuga, the bhajan of Ivar (the tenth Nakal'k avatar*) is the duty of the devotees.
Knowledge, meditation, yoga, penance, sleep, rules, samadhi, sadhana, are the eternal actions of the religion. In the past, they were considered to be the best, while in the last Kaliyuga, the devotion that performs all those sadhanas is considered the best.
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Fearing mercy
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the Lord of
the world​​The form of the Lord is the form of the Lord, the form of the Vedas is the form of the Lord: the Lord of the devotees is the branch of the branch, the husband of the wives is the beloved of the mother tree. The devotee cuts the branches and eats them, having eaten the food, he is absorbed in the light; “He eats the gold with his hands, the great one eats them, the cow of knowledge and meditation sings the virtues of Gavida —————————————— Brother, do not let the false Guru see you by heating it) On the occasion of the feast of Hari, some of the desires of the mind are like the Lord, the company of the true path is made, wherever he goes, he is like that. Brother, having eaten many recitations of the Gatha, Hari has come, and the Lord of the Trishuvan is happy to see him. Brother, having recited the Rudyams, he becomes the master of the Dhyat Dhani,


With the word of truth, keep this month of the moon, brother, 1 The light of the sky shines brightly, 7 There, in the pouring rain, the mother, the mother, the son of the false god ,
with folded hands, keeps the true god, the spinning wheel will be started ,
—— This opportunity will not come again, leave the kuda kikh and think, .Do not be afraid, Keshai, the opportunity is a great opportunity, the Lord is subject to the devotee, the Giver is very merciful. Opportunity, live! Family, clan and son; He will not feel the time. Opportunity, fear, if you do not share the joy of devotion, then you will eat the food of Yama, Syavasar, brother, follow the path of righteousness, there is no defect, opportunity, it will be a blessing to the Lord, do a thousand remedies. Opportunity, listen to the plea of ​​the best sleep, do the Ali of Vribha ——————————————