Farmans and Hadiths - Understanding, Sharing and Need

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swamidada
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Re: Farmans and Hadiths - Understanding, Sharing and Need

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kmaherali wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2026 9:10 am
swamidada wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2026 10:03 pm In your some previous posts, you have mentioned Allah is Noor. Now you are drifting away from statement. Nirinjin is beyond imagination hence can not be called essence, JEEM GUNGEY SAPNA PAYA. You used the term
'Alakh Nirinjin', Alakh means can't be written or described.
There are two aspects of God: God the absolute beyond knowledge and indescribable and God the Manifest. Allah is the Essence and Allah is also the Noor as manifest in creation. MSMS explains this in his Memoirs:

Thus Islam's basic principle can only be defined as mono-realism and not as monotheism. Consider, for example, the opening declaration of every Islamic prayer: "Allah-o-Akbar". What does that mean? There can be no doubt that the second word of the declaration likens the character of Allah to a matrix which contains all and gives existence to the infinite, to space, to time, to the Universe, to all active and passive forces imaginable, to life and to the soul. Imam Hassan has explained the Islamic doctrine of God and the Universe by analogy with the sun and its reflection in the pool of a fountain; there is certainly a reflection or image of the sun, but with what poverty and with what little reality; how small and pale is the likeness between this impalpable image and the immense, blazing, white-hot glory of the celestial sphere itself. Allah is the sun; and the Universe, as we know it in all its magnitude, and time, with its power, are nothing more than the reflection of the Absolute in the mirror of the fountain.

In Satpanth Ismailism the Imam performs the role of the Absolute and the Pir performs the role of the Noor
You wrote,"There are two aspects of God: God the absolute beyond knowledge and indescribable and God the Manifest".
There aren't any aspects of Nirinjin. Nirinjin is pure, spotless, formless, not visible in any form, PIR PAIGAMBAR TOEY NA PAWEY.
Your quotation from Memoirs is not helpful. Hazrat Hasan gave example of sun and its reflection, this shows one can not see who is above all else.
You wrote,"In satpunth the Imam performs the role of the Absolute and the Pir performs the role of Noor". This kind of philosophy was never preached in pro or past Fatimid era.
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Farmans and Hadiths - Understanding, Sharing and Need

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“Ali is the Gate of My Knowledge”: A Reflection on Knowledge, Authority, and Living Guidance Farmans in Islam

Introduction

Among the Farmans concerning the virtues of Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib (AS), one narration has attracted particular attention in both Sunni and Shia literature:

“Ali is the gate of my knowledge – the one who will explain to my community what I was sent to proclaim after I have gone. Loving him is faith, hating him is hypocrisy, and looking at him is mercy.”

This Farman - Hadith recently cited in an Institute of Ismaili Studies publication, highlights Imam Ali’s unique relationship with Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), Quran and Allah, his role in conveying God’s message, and the spiritual significance of devotion grounded in divine knowledge and understanding.

Beyond its historical dimension, the narration raises enduring questions about how religious knowledge is preserved, interpreted, and applied across generations.

Source of Hadith - Farman

The narration is attributed to the Companion Abu Dharr al-Ghifari (RA) and is reported by Al-Daylami (d. 509 AH) in Musnad al-Firdaws.

The Arabic text reads:

عليّ بابُ علمي، ومبيّنٌ لأمّتي ما أُرسلتُ به من بعدي، حبّه إيمان، وبغضه نفاق، والنظر إليه رأفةٌ

Translation:

“Ali is the gate of my knowledge and the one who will explain to my community what I was sent with after me. Love for him is faith, hatred of him is hypocrisy, and looking at him is mercy.”

The narration appears within the broader genre of fada’il (virtues literature), which records reports highlighting the spiritual and moral qualities of leading figures in early Islam.

Relationship to the “City of Knowledge”

This Hadith is closely connected in meaning to the well-known tradition:

“I am the City of Knowledge and Ali is its Gate.”

Both interpretations emphasise Imam Ali’s exceptional proximity to the Prophet and his role as a primary source for understanding prophetic knowledge in Quran from Allah

The metaphor of the “gate” is significant: it indicates access, interpretation, and structured entry into knowledge. The implication is not exclusivity of knowledge, but the importance of proper guidance in accessing it.

Scholarly Perspectives

As with many and understandable scholars have differed on the strength of the chain of transmission.

Some hadith scholars noted that works such as Musnad al-Firdaws contain narrations with incomplete or weak chains unless corroborated by other reports. Other scholars have accepted the meaning of such narrations when supported by parallel traditions in virtue literature.

Shia scholars generally cite this narration within a broader corpus affirming the knowledge, authority, and spiritual status and role of Imam Ali.

Regardless of technical debates over transmission, the thematic message is widely reflected in Islamic literature: Imam Ali is consistently portrayed as among the most knowledgeable, trustworthy, and spiritually elevated companions of the Prophet.

Knowledge, Understanding, and Spiritual Insight

A central theme of this narration is the relationship between divine knowledge and understanding.

In Islamic thought, knowledge (‘ilm) is not merely accumulation of information. It requires:

* comprehension,
* ethical grounding,
* and wisdom (hikmah).

The tradition therefore reflects a broader principle: knowledge must be guided by insight and moral responsibility in order to serve humanity meaningfully.

An Ismaili Perspective on Knowledge and Guidance

From an Ismaili perspective, this tradition is understood within the framework of continuous, & living guidance from Quran and Allah

The statement that Imam Ali would explain what the Prophet had conveyed is interpreted not only as a historical description but as the necessity of authoritative conveyance and interpretation (ta’wil) alongside revelation (tanzil).

In this understanding:

* The Qur’an provides the revealed foundation,
* The Prophet provides its immediate explanation and embodiment,
* Imam Ali represents the continuation of that conveying elucidation and guiding role,
* The hereditary ever present Imams continue this role across generations.

The Imam is therefore seen as conveying divinely guided knowledge in accordance with the needs of each age.

Hadith and Farman: Continuity of Guidance

Within the Ismaili tradition, a distinction is made between:

* Hadith: transmitted reports of the Prophet’s words, actions, and approvals,
* Farman: direct, living guidance blessings and mercy conveyed by the Imam of the Time.

While distinct in form and context, both are understood as part of a continuous framework of divine guidance.

Hadith preserve the foundational teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), while Farmans provide contemporary application and interpretation of the essence and form of the faith

Rather than being seen as separate or competing sources, they are viewed as complementary expressions of one continuous tradition faith & guidance.

Constitutional and Institutional Continuity of Guidance

In contemporary Ismaili thought, this principle of living guidance is also reflected in institutional and constitutional understanding.

The Ismaili Constitution 2025 affirms that it must be read together with the Farmans of the Imam of the Time. This establishes a structured relationship between written constitutional principles and the continuing authority of the Imam.

From this perspective, the constitution is not a static legal document alone, but part of Farmans & a dynamic framework in which:

* foundational principles are set out in writing,
* while interpretation, guidance, and application are provided through the living authority of the Imam.

This reflects a broader theological principle: that guidance in Islam is not limited to historical texts alone, and is also innate and latent and remains active, responsive, and contextual through divinely guided leadership.

Living Guidance in Practice

In modern application, Farmans address spiritual and worldly areas such as:

* ethical conduct,
* education and knowledge acquisition,
* pluralism and social cohesion,
* stewardship of resources,
* personal spiritual development,
* and service to humanity.

These teachings are understood as the continuation of the same as found in the Qur’an and the teachings of the Prophet.

Relevance for Contemporary Society

In a world characterised by vast information but often limited wisdom, this tradition carries particular relevance.

It emphasises that:

* knowledge requires guidance,
* interpretation requires authority,
* and understanding requires humility and reflection.

The challenge of the modern age is not only access to all Farmans constitution & knowledge, but therefore the ability to fully understand apply it ethically and meaningfully.

Conclusion

The tradition “Ali is the gate of my knowledge” remains a significant statement in Islamic and Ismaili intellectual and spiritual heritage.

While scholarly debate continues regarding its chains of transmission, its thematic meaning is widely recognised: Imam Ali and continuum of Imams and Hazar Imam occupies a central foundational role in the transmission and understanding of prophetic knowledge and of and from the Command Amr of God

From an Ismaili perspective, the narration also points toward a broader theological principle: that divine guidance continues through a living, divinely guided Imam who conveys interpretation and direction for each era.

In this sense, the tradition is not only about the past, but about the continuing relationship between knowledge, interpretation, and living guidance in the life of the Muslim community and God - Allah

References

1. Al-Daylami, Musnad al-Firdaws (source attributed for narration).
2. Institute of Ismaili Studies publication referencing traditions on Imam Ali:
https://www.iis.ac.uk/media/fuslo5vm/al ... 493423.pdf
1. The Holy Qur’an:
* 16:43 — “Ask the People of Remembrance if you do not know.”
* 21:7 — “Ask the People of Remembrance if you do not know.”
2. Discussion of “City of Knowledge” tradition:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_in_hadith_literature
1. Institute of Ismaili Studies:
https://www.iis.ac.uk
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