BHAI TEENI VERAY - CHOGHADIYA GINAN

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SabirSaleem90
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BHAI TEENI VERAY - CHOGHADIYA GINAN

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I have a question when we recite BHAI TEENI VERAY - CHOGHADIYA GINAN after Mukhi Kamadia do Tasbih and in that they say Dua

Maula Gatye utare par kar and other Dua

can someone let me know what does that Dua actually mean ?

Thank you

Ya Ali Madad
Aakash
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Re: BHAI TEENI VERAY - CHOGHADIYA GINAN

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SabirSaleem90 wrote:I have a question when we recite BHAI TEENI VERAY - CHOGHADIYA GINAN after Mukhi Kamadia do Tasbih and in that they say Dua

Maula Gatye utare par kar and other Dua

can someone let me know what does that Dua actually mean ?

Thank you

Ya Ali Madad
YAM,
it may be sound to you like “Gatye Utare”
But
The word in dua is actually “Gatiu Taarie”
Ref: Granth “Das avatar Nano” if you look in the last Avatar at the end of first paragraph you will find this word as:- Gatiu Taarie.
Here is the link:

http://ismaili.net/heritage/node/30588

Gatiu Taarie means
Ya Mawla tu(n) Gat Jamat Ku Nijaad Ata kar
Ya Mawla tu(n) Gat Jamat ne mukti daan ker OR taarile
Ya Mawla Grant salvation to the Present Jamat
Gat= present Jamat/hazar Jamat
Gatiu = to the present Jamat/Hazar Jamat ku/Hazar Jamat ne
Taarie = grant salvation/Nijaat aata kar/mukti daan karo.

It also means that Ya Mawla You are the One who can grant us salvation.
This is what I understand, actual meaning could be more deeper, may be local Al-Waez can describe more deep meaning.
SabirSaleem90
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Re: BHAI TEENI VERAY - CHOGHADIYA GINAN

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Aakash wrote:
SabirSaleem90 wrote:I have a question when we recite BHAI TEENI VERAY - CHOGHADIYA GINAN after Mukhi Kamadia do Tasbih and in that they say Dua

Maula Gatye utare par kar and other Dua

can someone let me know what does that Dua actually mean ?

Thank you

Ya Ali Madad
YAM,
it may be sound to you like “Gatye Utare”
But
The word in dua is actually “Gatiu Taarie”
Ref: Granth “Das avatar Nano” if you look in the last Avatar at the end of first paragraph you will find this word as:- Gatiu Taarie.
Here is the link:

http://ismaili.net/heritage/node/30588

Gatiu Taarie means
Ya Mawla tu(n) Gat Jamat Ku Nijaad Ata kar
Ya Mawla tu(n) Gat Jamat ne mukti daan ker OR taarile
Ya Mawla Grant salvation to the Present Jamat
Gat= present Jamat/hazar Jamat
Gatiu = to the present Jamat/Hazar Jamat ku/Hazar Jamat ne
Taarie = grant salvation/Nijaat aata kar/mukti daan karo.

It also means that Ya Mawla You are the One who can grant us salvation.
This is what I understand, actual meaning could be more deeper, may be local Al-Waez can describe more deep meaning.

Nice Explanation , Yes I will ask to Al Waez also.:)
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