Where is 'BHAMAR GUFA" located in Human body?

agakhani · Post by **agakhani** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:44 pm

THE WORD BHAMAR GUFA IN OUR GINANS

1, Eji "Bhamar gufaa" re upar dekhtaa, bhaai kaho kesaa gunn hoy.

2, Eji Bhamar gufaa upar takhat biraajeji, uaa jaai nishaan vajaaie - japataa

NOW READ BELOW THE WORD BHAMAR GUFA IN HINDU BHAJAN

1, EJI, UTTAR DISHA THI EK JOGI AVYO
'BHAMAR GUFA' MA JOGIDE ASAN VALAYA,
EJI, E ANAHAD NAAD BAJAVYO.

Please read above 2 ginanic and 1 Bhajan verses, you will find word
BAHAMAR GUFA ભમર ગૂફા in both verses:-

Questions:-

1, Where is 'BHAMAR GUFA' located in our forehead?
2, doesn't Hindu Bhajan look like our ginan?
3, Did you noticed that above Hindu Bhajan also has word 'Bhamar Gufa, and Anahad Nad which we also find in our many ginans?
4, Did this Hindu Bhajans are stolen from our ginans or our ginans are stolen from Hindu Bhajans? because I find many ginans in Hindu Bhajans books too same way many bhajans in our ginans!!

Post by **Admin** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:49 pm

Many Bhajans are written by Gupti Ismailis, they mention Panj Tan Pak, Shah Nizar, Alamut etc...

Bhajans are culturally, spiritually and geographically connected.

Post by **Admin** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:55 pm

Bhamar Gufa is a dot on the forefront of the human body, it is a deep spiritual conduit to the experience of the other world. its lace is where Ingala and Pingla meet with Sukshmana. Ingla and Pingla are the 2 blood veins on the left side and the right side of the neck, going toward the head and meeting on the forehead somewhere between the eyes. They are equated to Ganaga and jamna. These are all symbolic spiritual concept.

the third axis is perpendicular to the forehead, it goes like an arrow through the forehead between the two eyes, this is Sukshmana, equated with the underground invisible Swaraswati river, The confluence of these 3 rivers in the human forehead is the dot that is called Bhamar Goofa, this is where the Noor manifest itself during bandagi.

kmaherali · Post by **kmaherali** » Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:48 pm

There have been discussions on this subject at:

Ginans --> BHAMAR GUFA UPAR DEKHANTA

http://www.ismaili.net/html/modules.php ... hamar+gufa

Ginans --> Help me understand this. Please

http://www.ismaili.net/html/modules.php ... hamar+gufa

agakhani · Post by **agakhani** » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:33 am

Bhajans are culturally, spiritually and geographically connected.

I agree with your above quote.

Many Bhajans are written by Gupti Ismailis, they mention Panj Tan Pak, Shah Nizar, Alamut etc...

I am not 100% agree with your above quote; that many Bhajans are written by gupti Ismailis, they may have written some but I find many Bhajans similar to our ginans in Nizar (!!) Sect, Kabir Sect, Hindu Sect, Swami Narayani sect, Shakt Sect, Bij Margi sect, and many Bhajans of Ramdev Pir's and Athia sects too. but as per my own research some sects from above list were originated after Pir Satgur Noor, Pir Shams and pir Sadardin, so we have solid reason to believe that our ginans were composed first before their Bhajans.
Thanks for the reply.

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agakhani · Post by **agakhani** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:57 am

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MR-FORGET · Post by **MR-FORGET** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:19 am

Did this Hindu Bhajans are stolen from our ginans or our ginans are stolen from Hindu Bhajans? because I find many ginans in Hindu Bhajans books too same way many bhajans in our ginans!!

Mr. Agakhani,

good question! I also find many similar bhajans to our ginans below is a one example:-
Hindu Bhajan composed by Sant Maldev.

Ho ji re, Malde, chok puravine paat dhalavo
Eva ami na kalash thapavore,
ho jire vala,, sat suhagan tedavo,
Apana nakalnki saybane vadhavore.

Ismaili ginan similar of above Bhajan composed by Pir Sadardin.

Ji re vala, pat madndavi ne, chok puravo,
eva harskhe su kalash thapavore,
ji re valam sat suhagan tedavo,
vadhavo te kayam swami re..

If any one want to know more similar ginans to bhajans please let me know, but I doubt nobody have this kind interest any more.

agakhani · Post by **agakhani** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:20 am

For more information about the different Ismaili sects in Rajasthan and Gujarat which were once used to be practice on Ismailism but now a days they started to practice Hindu religion; please read "Ramdev Pir and Ismailis in Rajasthan" written by Dominique Shila Khan.
This is a good research book, however all informations in this book are not true but if you have interest to know more about the different Ismaili sects converted by Pir Shams (s.a.) and these sects are extincted then you have to read this book.
Their literature are very similar to Ismaili ginans and this is the subject of this thread.