zznoor wrote:ALI KE PUPPET AAP BHI BAN JAAVO
Hz Ali was human being and it is Kufr to consider him as subprime deity.
It is interesting to note that Admin keeps letting you post garbage on each and every post - and how this post from being about ruhani roshni has diverted into you defecating all over again - but i guess it is time to take your shoe once again and beat you on the head with it..and plus i am a bit bored - so this will be entertaining for me as well.
So here goes.
1. you're right Hazrat Ali was not a subprime deity - but he was the SOLE diety - the PRIME diety - and yes..to ME and others - Hazrat ALI - was and is GOD - and that light - NOOR is present in the Present Day Imam and will continue to be manifest till the day of judgement.
The Qur'an refers to this phenomenon - as Imam-e-Mubeen - THE MANIFEST IMAM.
and by the way - when I speak of ALI - I don't refer to the BODY - but rather the LIGHT - the NOOR - but i guess in your shariati mindset - the soul doesn't exist and nor does it matter - your mind goes back to the 7th Century Hazrat Ali - who was assassinated by Ibn Muljim....
Using a Sunni source - that even you can't deny - neither can your Wahhabist Handlers -
The "Sira" of the Prophet - the Biography - on which the majority of the Sunni Belief system is based (though written 200 years after the death of the Prophet) - upon Miraj the Prophet speaks of meeting Harun in Paradise - along with the other Prophets....
now to tie this together - there is a hadith of the prophet - which is authenticated by all the different scholars (Bukhari, Tabari, Al Islam, even Anas ibn Malik in Al- Mawta; you forgot I have a phd didn't you?)
the prophet has remarked on more than ONE occasion - "ALI YOU ARE TO ME AS HARUN WAS TO MUSA"
so what does that make ALI....
have any hair left after that beating?
Speaking of Pirs - you insult the prophet by degrading and insulting the position - as a former ismaili - you must be aware that Prophet Mohammed is considered our FIRST PIR...but somehow you permit yourself to insult that office.
In terms of the knowledge of the Pirs - what do you know about their levels?
Explain to me - how it was that Pir Satgur Noor (Nooruddin Mohammed) was able to talk about distance between stars using the word Tejh Waras - literally translated means - LIGHT YEARS - about 1000 years?
Or that Pir Hassan Kabirdeen spoke of the world being Egg shaped - and circumnavigating the sun - way before Copernicus and Galileo?
and FYI - all of our Pirs are from Ahl-e-Bayt; which you forget or aren't aware of.
Speaking of the Imams - if the Sunni faith is so strong - how is it that all the 4 major schools of Sunni Jurisprudence (Shafi, Hanbali, Maliki etc) trace their origins from a Shi'a Imam - Jafar-as-Sadiq?...hm..weren't the Sunni sources enough that they had to learn from a Shia Imam??
It is the same Shia Imam that has said - that if there were 2 people left on the planet earth - one would be the IMAM - think of the importance of that statement in perpetuity - The IMAM has always been here....without the IMAM even for a split second - the world would cease to exist!!
Anyways - authorship of the Imams - Hazrat Ali's works - Nahjul Balagha
Imam Zainul Abideen was an avid writer, as was Imam Jafar As Sadiq - whose works are plentiful and can be read, many Imams wrote- just because you are illiterate doesn't mean that knowledge is not out there.
You act like just because you haven't seen electricity anyone else talking about it must be crazy.
Seriously - crawl back into the kanzu (africans will get this..i don't know what it's called in urdu - the frock that muslim men wear) of the wahabist maulvi who's feeding you half baked garbage - and leave us alone.
As you have stated - we're kufr - let us sin and we'll deal with it on the day of judgement..why do you worry?
We're happy drowning - go save someone who actually wants to be saved.
ALI is ALLAH to me and that is the ultimate and only truth.
Shams
