INEQUALITY OF WEALTH

nuseri · Post by **nuseri** » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:39 pm

Ya Ali Madad.
A report from OXFAM UK on wealth that got released a week back.
It States that wealth of 62 richest persons is same as 50% that is 3.6 billion persons.
and wealth of top 1% is same as rest of 99% of the world population.
This is reality of the persons blessed or cursed from their acts of generosity to God and humanity at larger from their past lives.
This shows a Vast inequality and unbalanced ratio.Nevertheless a starking truth.
My question to our learned members.

Does it also stand true where spirituality status of all souls as observed today?
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kmaherali · Post by **kmaherali** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:01 am

As per MSMS, there is vast difference between a haqiqati and a shariati.

MSMS has also said that there must be 313 momins without whom the world cannot go on.

The exact Firman is: "There are always 313 true believers in this world. The world would not exist without these 313 true momins" (Majewdi, 27/12/1893).

In his Memoirs MSMS said:

"Islam acknowledges the existence of angels, of great souls who have developed themselves to the highest possible planes of the human soul and higher, and who are centres of the forces which are scattered throughout the Universe".

The Man of God is drunken without wine
The Man of God is sated without meat
The Man of God is rapturous, amazed
The Man of God has neither food nor sleep
The Man of God is a king beneath a humble cloak
The Man of God is a treasure in a ruin
The Man of God in not of wind and earth
The Man of God is not of fire and water
The Man of God is a sea without a shore
The Man of God rains pearls without a cloud
The Man of God has a hundred moons and skies
The Man of God has hundred sunshines
The Man of God is wise through Truth
The Man of God is not a scholar from a book
The Man of God is beyond faith and disbelief alike
For the Man of God what sin and merit is there?
The Man of God rode away from Non-being
The Man of God has come, sublimely riding
The Man of God Is, Concealed, O Shamsudin!
Search for, and find - The Man of God.

---Jalaluddin Rumi---

Post by **Admin** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:24 pm

I think the above post is more appropriate in the thread about Rumi or shams Tabriz, not in this thread.

kmaherali · Post by **kmaherali** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:29 pm

Admin wrote:I think the above post is more appropriate in the thread about Rumi or shams Tabriz, not in this thread.

How else can you explain the inequality of souls that nuseri has asked about?

Post by **Admin** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:19 pm

I did not realise that this was a reply to the question about the inequality of soul. Seing the name of Rumi, I though it was mis-posted in the wrong thread.

I am not sure how the inequality of soul can be explained. The souls, all of them have the same source and according to me have been created equal (else God would be unjust)

However as they pass through this material word and various rebirths,
they are shaped differently according to their actions and intentions and the law of Karma kicks in which in turn explains the inequality.

nuseri · Post by **nuseri** » Wed Jan 27, 2016 11:14 pm

Ya Ali Madad.
I feel first part of kmaherali is ok but the poem looks out of place in this topic.
It is nice to see members to give inputs on current reality as it stimulates our intellect while xxx years old data may brushed a jaded mind or even an outdated mind as we DO NOT live in those era.
It was nice to see an Ismaili Mr Azim Premji in the list of 62 names.He is giving off his 92% of his wealth for the cause of humanity.
As I observe ,I see the bottom 30% are partially living of on aid n donations,next 30% manage to survive just enough for their family.next 30% do spend 0.1% to 2.5% of their income in cause of God and Humanity and next 8% from 2.5% to 10% of their income and the blessed top 2 % give from 10% and above to God and cause of humanity.
I feel beside just wealth one should study the comfort level,contentment n happiness of each indivual wealth.
This data or study would have been true from their many past lives.

kmaherali · Post by **kmaherali** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:49 pm

Admin wrote: I am not sure how the inequality of soul can be explained. The souls, all of them have the same source and according to me have been created equal (else God would be unjust)

However as they pass through this material word and various rebirths,
they are shaped differently according to their actions and intentions and the law of Karma kicks in which in turn explains the inequality.

I think you are contradicting yourself from the two statements above. On the one hand you are saying that the inequalities cannot be explained while on the other hand you are saying it can be explained through the law of karma!

MSMS explains this inequality at birth in his Memoirs:

"Roumi and Hafiz, the great Persian poets, have told us, each in his different way, that some men are born with such natural spiritual capacities and possibilities of development that they have direct experience of that great love, that all-embracing, all-consuming love, which direct contact with reality gives to the human soil.

kmaherali · Post by **kmaherali** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:55 pm

nuseri wrote:Ya Ali Madad.
I feel first part of kmaherali is ok but the poem looks out of place in this topic..

No it is very much part of the topic. It indicates the difference between an ordinary person and the advanced soul and hence the inequality of the soul.

nuseri wrote: I feel beside just wealth one should study the comfort level,contentment n happiness of each indivual wealth.
This data or study would have been true from their many past lives.

Yes I agree, wealth should not be the sole criteria to evaluate inequalities. MHI has said in his Farman that a life of a poor man with faith is more valuable than a life of a rich man with none. In another Farman he has said that a life of a man without faith is not worth the dust on the road.

sameernoorani5 · Post by **sameernoorani5** » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:40 pm

Accumulation of wealth in few hands have been from beginning. God's system is divided in class system. Humans are not created equal. Inequality is one of the laws of nature. Richness has nothing to do with Karma but deeds. I am not in favor of richi riches. All rich persons are not saints and sufis but these billionaires are mostly helping poor masses. They are spending billions of dollars each year on welfare of poor persons. These rich persons and corporations pay 35 to 45% in taxes then spend 10 to 20% for helping to establish schools, colleges, universities, housing, food and on other charity works. Islam and other religions allow to make money but has imposed 10% Tithe on earnings. This religious formula is equal to all. Suppose a poor person is paying Rs 100 in tithe and a rich person is paying say Rs 1oo,ooo as 10% on his earnings then both have same rewards from God in my opinion. Other thing poor masses should stop having 10/12 children when they do not have means to take care of them, they should live within their means. Let me quote two proverbs in Kachhi to understand the God's syatem.
1.MAALIK PLATE DISSI NE JURO DEY TOU. (wordly)
2.MIRREY JO HAQ SARHKO. (relgiously)

kmaherali · Post by **kmaherali** » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:30 am

The rich list
SLIDE SHOW

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstori ... md#image=1

A recent report from Oxfam revealed the world’s 62 richest billionaires own as much wealth as ALL of the poorer half of the world’s population. Using data from the Forbes 2015 rich list and the IMF World Economic Outlook report we reveal the billionaires wealthier than entire countries.